Message from @Railing
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no
in many settings people would accept that the leader has more experience and knowledge than them
leadersip is self justifying
if people question a leader than I assume there's something wrong with him
Coercion, while unpleasent, is necessary if there are needs for it.
Of course, an anarchist society wouldn't tolerate crime either
in fact it'd likely use capital punishment because people don't like operating prisons
But you said earlier, that the leadership could not use coercion.
So which is it?
in day-to-day life, people can voluntarily follow a leader
a leader doesn't need a whip to influence people and if they do, they aren't a good leader
crime is a differet issue
people have a right to self-defense
But in an anarchist world where there is no morals or authority, crime can be just about anything.
defending oneself isn't imposing ones authority on another
It would be more up to how people define crime.
crime is the same things we see it as today
people are innately opposed to murder and rape and stealing
we don't need authoritarians to point out the obvious
moreover many crimes impose authoritarian conditions on individuals and go against anarchist principles
But, when society falls apart, and there is no governing force or morals, I would have to imagine that slavery, prostitution, cartels, and more would become common place, because there is no central authority that is against them, organizations could make laws that would make such things legal.
Government =/= society
I mean to be clear, anarchy =/= chaos
@Wilhelm Zaisser#5032 Society today depends on the governments of today, it is a need, not them being the same.
it would require a vast bureacracy and complex institutiosn to manage
there'd be order
and it would take a massive upheaval to diminish that order just like most societies today
Order is dependant on some form of authority to enforce it, otherwise people would not listen or obey to it.
Anarchism also removes most of the incentives people have to commit crime. Private property of course, should be abolished.
*Without God, morality wouldn't exist*
there's a natural order to thing
that can be imposed throughinstitutions
people can self organize
@Railing Yes, when you make everything legal, then crime rates will drop 100%.
we don't hierarchical structures in place to organize people
Not because people stop doing them, but because it is not defined as a crime anymore.
moreover leader would naturally arise to assist in organizing
ehh, no there'd still be the concept of crime in an anarchist society
most anarchists aren't opposed to the law
they're just opposed to the current laws