Message from @Deleted User
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It doesn't keep you irrational at all, where do you get this
Innovations is haulted by intellectual luddites called 'devout religious people'.
If you believe in God, you believe it has rational basis.
to describe religion as oppressive you'd logically apply the same to all human culture
You believe that God has explanatory power.
You believe that God causes you to travel into the afterlife.
It is no co-incidence that society has been moving into a secular post-cultural mode.
The vast masses of people dont need to be rational in the scientific sense
The masses are not naturally atheistic
Yeah, the masses of people don't need to be, but regardless religion is still irrational
It's broken down to having zero evidence, and purely being based upon "faith"
What doesn't have evidence?
God, afterlife, the whole bit...
Theism?
I think theism is the result of psychological evolution
Sure.
basically the amalgamation of the truest of all values
humans have a tendency towards hierarchy
I'm not talking about theism, I'm talking about religion
But you are making empirical claims based on psychology. These things misfire all the time.
define religion
explain @Deleted User
Have you heard of 'phantom limbs', where amputees still feel sensations as if they still had their limb?
The body is misfiring, even though it evolved this way.
Just because psychology evolved a certain way does not mean it exists empirically.
There a plenty of examples in psychology of sensory illusions.
There are misfires but this doesn't mean that the reaction itself has no evolutionary purpose
Again, you are confusing subjective purpose with objective empirical claims.
also, this relies on empirical observation, and religion isn't emperical for most people
Yes it is.
unless they have an experience like that
People literally think God will send them to Heaven. That's an empirical claim.
Which there is no evidence for.
Yes it is.
but look at the psychological mechanisms that would lead to that kind of thinking
The divine arbiter would decide whether their actions were meaningful enough to deserve heaven
this gives their actions meaning
I'm not saying that God doesn't give people meaning. I am say that it is based on sensory illusion.
As far as we can tell.
I worship my ancestors tbh