Message from @Sampuka

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2017-09-14 19:50:10 UTC  

doesn't matter, no need to talk about materialism

2017-09-14 19:50:17 UTC  

There is no context

2017-09-14 19:50:22 UTC  

it's just the philosophical background

2017-09-14 19:50:26 UTC  

just explain to me

2017-09-14 19:50:30 UTC  

in a perfect scenario

2017-09-14 19:50:34 UTC  

how would communism play out

2017-09-14 19:50:43 UTC  

that's untellable

2017-09-14 19:50:48 UTC  

you can't do that with anything

2017-09-14 19:50:55 UTC  

no

2017-09-14 19:51:00 UTC  

@Big Ounce how is it important to communist ideas?

2017-09-14 19:51:48 UTC  

dunno

2017-09-14 19:51:57 UTC  

just asking questions for the sake of asking questions

2017-09-14 19:52:00 UTC  

also

2017-09-14 19:52:04 UTC  

please stop @ing me

2017-09-14 19:52:05 UTC  

If you want a modern proposal for a socialist mode of production you should maybe read Cockshott, but that is well beyond the scope of this chat

2017-09-14 19:53:28 UTC  

wanna talk about class?

2017-09-14 19:53:34 UTC  

yes

2017-09-14 19:54:00 UTC  

one (wrong) assumption people have about 'class' is that it is inherently about wealth, when a socialist says 'class', it refers to a person being in one of two groups, working class or ruling class

2017-09-14 19:54:24 UTC  

@Big Ounce materialism means all communist ideas must come from verified factual information.

2017-09-14 19:54:54 UTC  

@Deleted User COME I THINK I FOUND SOME INTELLECTUAL COMMEIS

2017-09-14 19:55:56 UTC  

and the thing that determines what class you are, is your relationship to the means of production

2017-09-14 19:56:54 UTC  

the material interest of someone of working class is to fight against the ruling class, and try to shape society in a way that is beneficial for them

2017-09-14 19:56:59 UTC  

also called class struggle

2017-09-14 19:57:06 UTC  

**SEIZETHEMEMESOFPRODDUCTION**

2017-09-14 19:57:15 UTC  

**SEIZING INTENSIFIES**

2017-09-14 19:57:16 UTC  

this is the basis for historical materialism

2017-09-14 19:57:19 UTC  

SEIZE

2017-09-14 19:57:45 UTC  

which is a pretty basic idea behind any left-wing theory

2017-09-14 19:58:01 UTC  

alright

2017-09-14 19:58:04 UTC  

already knew this

2017-09-14 19:58:22 UTC  

@Big Ounce just a minute ago you told me you want to learn and now you meme

2017-09-14 19:58:54 UTC  

memeing doesn't mean im not learning faggot

2017-09-14 19:58:59 UTC  

I told you about core communist idea. It is materialism.

2017-09-14 19:59:14 UTC  

i'd rather talk with sampuka

2017-09-14 19:59:16 UTC  

do you also think that society has been shaped in accordence to historical materialism? ie. that it is the class that has driven the development from slave society -> feudalism -> capitalism?

2017-09-14 19:59:26 UTC  

he seems to e the brighter fellow

2017-09-14 19:59:32 UTC  

to be*

2017-09-14 19:59:44 UTC  

absolutely assblasted spelling comming from me

2017-09-14 19:59:57 UTC  

don't worry

2017-09-14 20:00:06 UTC  

it happens to the best of us keyboard warriors

2017-09-14 20:00:13 UTC  

it keeps happening to me :p