Message from @Big Ounce

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2017-09-14 19:47:32 UTC  

just tell you to read a book

2017-09-14 19:47:41 UTC  

and feel to enlightened to talk to you

2017-09-14 19:47:43 UTC  

the cunts

2017-09-14 19:47:53 UTC  

@Big Ounce what do you want to learn about?

2017-09-14 19:48:12 UTC  

core ideas

2017-09-14 19:48:23 UTC  

core ideas would probably be class

2017-09-14 19:48:32 UTC  

@Big Ounce materialism is a core idea

2017-09-14 19:48:36 UTC  

and the erosion of said class?

2017-09-14 19:49:13 UTC  

@Big Ounce do you know anything about materialism?

2017-09-14 19:49:19 UTC  

well that would be a natural followup, but do you have any questions?

2017-09-14 19:49:38 UTC  

@Firefly in this context no

2017-09-14 19:49:54 UTC  

@Big Ounce in which context?

2017-09-14 19:50:10 UTC  

doesn't matter, no need to talk about materialism

2017-09-14 19:50:17 UTC  

There is no context

2017-09-14 19:50:22 UTC  

it's just the philosophical background

2017-09-14 19:50:26 UTC  

just explain to me

2017-09-14 19:50:30 UTC  

in a perfect scenario

2017-09-14 19:50:34 UTC  

how would communism play out

2017-09-14 19:50:43 UTC  

that's untellable

2017-09-14 19:50:48 UTC  

you can't do that with anything

2017-09-14 19:50:55 UTC  

no

2017-09-14 19:51:00 UTC  

@Big Ounce how is it important to communist ideas?

2017-09-14 19:51:48 UTC  

dunno

2017-09-14 19:51:57 UTC  

just asking questions for the sake of asking questions

2017-09-14 19:52:00 UTC  

also

2017-09-14 19:52:04 UTC  

please stop @ing me

2017-09-14 19:52:05 UTC  

If you want a modern proposal for a socialist mode of production you should maybe read Cockshott, but that is well beyond the scope of this chat

2017-09-14 19:53:28 UTC  

wanna talk about class?

2017-09-14 19:53:34 UTC  

yes

2017-09-14 19:54:00 UTC  

one (wrong) assumption people have about 'class' is that it is inherently about wealth, when a socialist says 'class', it refers to a person being in one of two groups, working class or ruling class

2017-09-14 19:54:24 UTC  

@Big Ounce materialism means all communist ideas must come from verified factual information.

2017-09-14 19:54:54 UTC  

@Deleted User COME I THINK I FOUND SOME INTELLECTUAL COMMEIS

2017-09-14 19:55:56 UTC  

and the thing that determines what class you are, is your relationship to the means of production

2017-09-14 19:56:54 UTC  

the material interest of someone of working class is to fight against the ruling class, and try to shape society in a way that is beneficial for them

2017-09-14 19:56:59 UTC  

also called class struggle

2017-09-14 19:57:06 UTC  

**SEIZETHEMEMESOFPRODDUCTION**

2017-09-14 19:57:15 UTC  

**SEIZING INTENSIFIES**

2017-09-14 19:57:16 UTC  

this is the basis for historical materialism

2017-09-14 19:57:19 UTC  

SEIZE

2017-09-14 19:57:45 UTC  

which is a pretty basic idea behind any left-wing theory

2017-09-14 19:58:01 UTC  

alright