Message from @Cotton
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It's pretty organic, I would think. Indeed, my reasoning is obsolete.
i mean, considering you are applying rational thinking to morals too, like everything
you might as well not, i am no one to judge that
I guess my idea is amorality + God's commands.
And different groups compete to prove what those are.
amorality is the stance everyone initially has, only the values shape the moral structure of people, think of a tribe in amazons that are sacrificing and cannibalizing people for their god and compare it to your or any westerner's morals
with "killing a person is bad"
Pretty much. However that mote of worship no longer exists.
this is what makes kant wrong
it might not exist
i can just build a religion like that
that will be my morals because i believe in it
that a bloodthirsty god needs some virgin sacrifice
I agree. It's not the 'badness' that makes it wrong. It's wrong before it competes with other ideas, ones that you might have.
that's only an example, it can be expanded really, think of stealing someone's property in an ancom community or whatever
I think we are on the same page here.
and i really forgot what we were on before
haha
Rational thinking is a kind of secular morality.
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it might just make you reach god
and go full zealot
because that would be the absolute truth after that point
hahaha
"honor" is really funny, along with "humility" and bunch of others
not that they are wrong, in the way people think of them
these words are the ones that could make me go and crusade
O' day, arise!
shine your light , the atoms are dancing
Thanks to Him the universe is dancing,
overcome with ecstasy , free from body and mind
I'll whisper in your ear where their dance is leading them.
All the atoms in the air and in the desert are dancing ,
puzzled and drunken to the ray of light,
they seem insane.
All these atoms are not so different than we are,
happy or miserable,
perplexed and bewildered
We are all beings in the ray of LIGHT from The Beloved,
nothing can be said.
i mean, from an objective standpoint, bullshit
hahaha
Martyrdom is the purest devotion.
All good religions must give martyrs a free ticket to heaven.
Buddhism doesn't/
is it? what if you are wrong and there is no god waiting to embrace you on the other side?
It doesn't matter whatsoever. You already realised in yourself the internalisation of the ultimate meaning.
and you'll die happily with believing in it?
Could you imagine the euphoria that martyrs feel? But you have to **fully** know it.
isn't the rational mind and intelligence and wit is a curse?
The mind is dead. What have your done to overcome it?