Message from @National Trotskyist

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2017-09-19 00:31:33 UTC  

(Be right back, I have to do something)

2017-09-19 00:31:54 UTC  

I do currently believe though that centrally planned economies like the USSR were massively inefficient

2017-09-19 00:32:42 UTC  

From what I've read socialism isn't really based on "equality" like everyone doesn't make the same money or have the same wealth

2017-09-19 00:33:27 UTC  

But rather people are paid based on the amount of labor they put into a product I think

2017-09-19 00:33:45 UTC  

The problem is it's all kinda based around this idea of the labor theory of value which I don't exactly understand

2017-09-19 00:33:48 UTC  

Fully yet

2017-09-19 00:34:12 UTC  

Which is why I'm tryna learn before I make my mind up about somethin

2017-09-19 00:34:44 UTC  

The modern middle class is the proletariat

2017-09-19 00:35:07 UTC  

the middle/lower class proletariat worker is the majority in America

2017-09-19 00:39:27 UTC  

Back.

2017-09-19 00:40:01 UTC  

@Your Favorite Martian =3 A centrally planned economy can work, but only in very small communities.

2017-09-19 00:40:40 UTC  

Which I why I think I can get some of the understanding of anarchists and anarcho syndicalists.

2017-09-19 00:50:50 UTC  

Was that the goal of pol pot?
I wonder.

2017-09-19 00:58:09 UTC  

@Deleted User Out of curiosity, who is James Mason you spoke of?

2017-09-19 00:58:29 UTC  

Never heard of him?

2017-09-19 00:59:25 UTC  

No, google search brings up some actor

2017-09-19 00:59:34 UTC  

And I know quite few fringe fascist ideologists

2017-09-19 01:00:46 UTC  

I don't blame you, a person would have to have an above basic level of understandings of fascism in order to even know him, he wrote the book seige, you should look into him, he is quite the interesting personality.

2017-09-19 01:01:01 UTC  

The book seige, is about as important to modern fascism as mein kampf is.

2017-09-19 01:07:29 UTC  

Interesting, thanks

2017-09-19 02:02:20 UTC  

He's also a George Lincoln Rockwell disciple, which is the worst thing you can be, basically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Mason_(National_Socialist)

2017-09-19 05:48:54 UTC  

nigger

2017-09-19 05:58:11 UTC  

uuhhhhh dab

2017-09-19 07:00:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/359594546390106113/FB_IMG_1505613764959.png

2017-09-19 07:01:38 UTC  

I agree, fuck nazis

2017-09-19 07:01:57 UTC  

woop woop fuck nazis

2017-09-19 07:02:16 UTC  

But need better helmets

2017-09-19 07:03:12 UTC  

US m1 helmets

2017-09-19 07:05:11 UTC  

yeah, but hopefully the antifa movement doesn't need to become protracted to the point of reeeaaaaally needing better / more militarized equipment

2017-09-19 07:05:19 UTC  

Because at that point I'm dun fukd

2017-09-19 07:05:25 UTC  

They need to

2017-09-19 07:06:09 UTC  

Like, a genuine anarchist/socialist/communist movement? Sure. But the American antifa movement isn't anyone's Vanguard, pretty sure

2017-09-19 07:06:21 UTC  

Hopefully they complete their quest and then go do some other praxis

2017-09-19 07:06:45 UTC  

Antifa is a visible entity. If shit got violent, they would need to become underground, but would also be called something else then and keep 'Antifa' for public activity.

2017-09-19 07:06:55 UTC  

^Basically this

2017-09-19 07:07:15 UTC  

But if shit gets violent, and it's real big-top time fascism, then I'm probably already on a train.