Message from @EALootcrates

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2017-09-20 00:09:58 UTC  

first of all

2017-09-20 00:10:02 UTC  

name me 5 more

2017-09-20 00:10:04 UTC  

second

2017-09-20 00:10:06 UTC  

give me proof

2017-09-20 00:10:33 UTC  

i dunno, pretty much *every party* in Britain wants to keep the NHS

2017-09-20 00:10:40 UTC  

I'd hate to break it to you, but contrary to Cold War era propoganda would tell you socialism has a lot more to do with labor's relation to capital than anything else. I'm not even a socialist (I'm skeptical of the labor theory of value somewhat because I haven't read enough about it)

2017-09-20 00:10:42 UTC  

5 right wing parties that advocate for national health care?

2017-09-20 00:10:50 UTC  

yes

2017-09-20 00:10:51 UTC  

now

2017-09-20 00:10:59 UTC  

But I don't pretend to strawman ideas

2017-09-20 00:11:10 UTC  

pretty much all parties in countries that have universal healthcare

2017-09-20 00:11:14 UTC  

it's funny because

2017-09-20 00:11:18 UTC  

because people don't want to vote for their own deaths

2017-09-20 00:11:32 UTC  

"people don't want to vote for their own deaths"

2017-09-20 00:11:34 UTC  

lmao

2017-09-20 00:11:41 UTC  

single-payer healthcare

2017-09-20 00:11:44 UTC  

just gives shittier healthcare

2017-09-20 00:11:54 UTC  

by the way, healthcare plans given by the state exist

2017-09-20 00:12:02 UTC  

there's a limit to privatization in that sector

2017-09-20 00:12:13 UTC  

That is true, while in privatized, the big corporations will exploit people and jack up prices.

2017-09-20 00:12:32 UTC  

"muhh muhh big corporations"

2017-09-20 00:12:37 UTC  

let me pull out a stat

2017-09-20 00:12:41 UTC  

about healthcare prices

2017-09-20 00:12:47 UTC  

Don't pretend it does not happen.

2017-09-20 00:13:10 UTC  

before giving the stat

2017-09-20 00:13:23 UTC  

i'm going to remind you that competition to satisfy the consumer in healthcare

2017-09-20 00:13:34 UTC  

makes "big corporations" try to give the best plans

2017-09-20 00:13:39 UTC  

to their clients

2017-09-20 00:13:41 UTC  

Do you even know about adverse selection and market failure

2017-09-20 00:13:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/359854603702894592/aed35117d45a3d0c32f3e94f3556c22eb653c7d9ab3422340a4514ac42d94769.jpg

2017-09-20 00:13:45 UTC  

because if they don't

2017-09-20 00:13:47 UTC  

others will

2017-09-20 00:14:23 UTC  

i'm not going to defend socdems more than this

2017-09-20 00:14:27 UTC  

the worst healthcares in that chart

2017-09-20 00:14:31 UTC  

are in canada

2017-09-20 00:14:32 UTC  

sweden

2017-09-20 00:14:35 UTC  

denmark

2017-09-20 00:14:43 UTC  

and france

2017-09-20 00:15:09 UTC  

not gonna notice how the US is worst overall?

2017-09-20 00:15:23 UTC  

government-mandated care exists fucktard

2017-09-20 00:15:30 UTC  

or how britain with its NHS is 1 in most things