wait, how retarded are you?

are you radical enough to call dems center-right?

the democrats still think universal healthcare, something promoted even by right-wing parties in europe, is pie in the sky

what

While modern leftism somehow progressively get's shittier every few decades, it seems that it has a strange cycle of degeneration and more radical left wing beliefs, and not the liberation of workers, or the abolishment of capitalism that we would commonly associate with radical leftism.

dems preach universal healthcare

and by the way

no respectful right wing parties

would want universal healthcare

not the Christian Democratic Party?

are you gonna say that's hard left?

first of all

name me 5 more

second

give me proof

i dunno, pretty much *every party* in Britain wants to keep the NHS

I'd hate to break it to you, but contrary to Cold War era propoganda would tell you socialism has a lot more to do with labor's relation to capital than anything else. I'm not even a socialist (I'm skeptical of the labor theory of value somewhat because I haven't read enough about it)

5 right wing parties that advocate for national health care?

yes

now

But I don't pretend to strawman ideas

pretty much all parties in countries that have universal healthcare

it's funny because

because people don't want to vote for their own deaths

"people don't want to vote for their own deaths"

lmao

single-payer healthcare

just gives shittier healthcare

by the way, healthcare plans given by the state exist

there's a limit to privatization in that sector

That is true, while in privatized, the big corporations will exploit people and jack up prices.

"muhh muhh big corporations"

let me pull out a stat

about healthcare prices

Don't pretend it does not happen.

before giving the stat

i'm going to remind you that competition to satisfy the consumer in healthcare

makes "big corporations" try to give the best plans

to their clients

Do you even know about adverse selection and market failure