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While modern leftism somehow progressively get's shittier every few decades, it seems that it has a strange cycle of degeneration and more radical left wing beliefs, and not the liberation of workers, or the abolishment of capitalism that we would commonly associate with radical leftism.
dems preach universal healthcare
and by the way
no respectful right wing parties
would want universal healthcare
not the Christian Democratic Party?
are you gonna say that's hard left?
first of all
name me 5 more
second
give me proof
i dunno, pretty much *every party* in Britain wants to keep the NHS
I'd hate to break it to you, but contrary to Cold War era propoganda would tell you socialism has a lot more to do with labor's relation to capital than anything else. I'm not even a socialist (I'm skeptical of the labor theory of value somewhat because I haven't read enough about it)
5 right wing parties that advocate for national health care?
yes
now
But I don't pretend to strawman ideas
pretty much all parties in countries that have universal healthcare
it's funny because
"people don't want to vote for their own deaths"
lmao
single-payer healthcare
just gives shittier healthcare
by the way, healthcare plans given by the state exist
there's a limit to privatization in that sector
That is true, while in privatized, the big corporations will exploit people and jack up prices.
"muhh muhh big corporations"
let me pull out a stat
about healthcare prices
Don't pretend it does not happen.
before giving the stat
i'm going to remind you that competition to satisfy the consumer in healthcare
makes "big corporations" try to give the best plans
to their clients
Do you even know about adverse selection and market failure
because if they don't
others will
i'm not going to defend socdems more than this