Message from @EALootcrates

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2017-09-20 00:16:13 UTC  

canada

2017-09-20 00:16:14 UTC  

denmark

2017-09-20 00:16:15 UTC  

france

2017-09-20 00:16:18 UTC  

are around 76

2017-09-20 00:16:21 UTC  

*7

2017-09-20 00:16:42 UTC  

Which means that they will almost always either hire shittier staff, pay them worse, or give lower quality care, or both.

2017-09-20 00:16:48 UTC  

well, isn't care expensive for the state too

2017-09-20 00:16:59 UTC  

Yes.

2017-09-20 00:17:15 UTC  

the state gives lower quality care too you know

2017-09-20 00:17:19 UTC  

if they don't make a profit out of it

2017-09-20 00:17:23 UTC  

@Deleted User Didn't social democracy originally meant what democratic socialism means today, before modern sozis have appropriated the term?
I think it was used in such a manner as the previous name of the Bolshevik Party.

2017-09-20 00:17:25 UTC  

the expenditures

2017-09-20 00:17:27 UTC  

are tough

2017-09-20 00:17:29 UTC  

We literally spend the most in the world on healthcare and have some of the least uninsured

2017-09-20 00:17:32 UTC  

Which when you combine that with having to manage hospitals, and equipment, it means that quality will almost always suffer, and lead to longer wait times, and worse care.

2017-09-20 00:17:51 UTC  

Phenian, what?

2017-09-20 00:17:58 UTC  

yes, bernie confuses demsoc and socdem

2017-09-20 00:18:02 UTC  

single payer healthcare in america would be a disaster

2017-09-20 00:18:09 UTC  

300 million people

2017-09-20 00:18:14 UTC  

not paying a dime

2017-09-20 00:18:20 UTC  

for the expensive-ass healthcare they're receiving

2017-09-20 00:18:22 UTC  

@Your Favorite Martian =3 Healthcare is a very difficult thing to manage, both economically and politically.

2017-09-20 00:18:27 UTC  

the quality of healthcare would lower

2017-09-20 00:18:40 UTC  

and the GDP percentage put into it

2017-09-20 00:18:42 UTC  

would skyrocket

2017-09-20 00:18:47 UTC  

no profit would come out of it

2017-09-20 00:18:53 UTC  

no profit?

2017-09-20 00:19:00 UTC  

do healthy people not produce profit?

2017-09-20 00:19:03 UTC  

an estimated 155 million people

2017-09-20 00:19:04 UTC  

under 65

2017-09-20 00:19:06 UTC  

were insured

2017-09-20 00:19:40 UTC  

@Deleted User They do, but you would have to hope that the costs and profits would even out in those terms.

2017-09-20 00:19:41 UTC  

healthcare in the US

2017-09-20 00:19:45 UTC  

has been costing less and less

2017-09-20 00:19:49 UTC  

since the 2000's

2017-09-20 00:19:55 UTC  

people are getting less and less insured

2017-09-20 00:19:57 UTC  

as a result

2017-09-20 00:19:57 UTC  

are you sure that's because of the free market

2017-09-20 00:20:02 UTC  

uh, yes

2017-09-20 00:20:03 UTC  

and not technical advances?

2017-09-20 00:20:12 UTC  

technical advances are a result of capitalism