And some other factors, I haven't read Gotha Programme yet.

But some places got rid of money altogether

@styles You could be any number of things.

That's the difference between anarcho-collectivism and anarcho-communism

im saying in a society where the concept of working is completely demolished by the fact machines can do everything a human can

the former supports having labor vouchers until there is no need for money

in that scenario capitalism cant exist, there would be chaos, and several other bullshit

in the part where it is like now (machines make things easier) then that still is based on reality

Yeah I agree, capitalism ends when automation progresses into not needing people anymore.

That's when socialism is the answer.

but then a machine would have to handle it

We could have automation

because people would just start killing each other for more shit than someone else

Like, right now

what would be their purpose by definition if they couldnt work so it would cause many problems

Not in a communist society.

Why would people kill eachother for shit when goods are produced without currency on the basis of need?

because if theyre not working

they have everything already

then the only thing that can come to mind is 'well i need some way of having currency so ill just have more shit than the other guy'

this is how currency is shown in america, by having more expensive shit, rather than having money

at least the rich man's way of showing who has more money without giving a number

I get what you mean.

Capitalism produces capitalist morals and attitudes though.

capitalism produces capitalist society which is a basis of success and makes up the rich types of 'the 1%'

consumerism is the destruction caused by the result of over saturation of production

capitalism or socialism the source isnt relevant

I was responding directly toward your claim that people would kill others for "nice stuff"

i would say 'more stuff' if everything is equal, then it would be the quantity

Labor vouchers.

would still require work

in normal society the only thing that works in a culturally diverse society is capitalism

because of the fact that the lower class incompatible with the standards of the culture the society is based upon will take advantage of socialistic benefits

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