Message from @D-H

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2017-11-07 03:24:53 UTC  

You cannot really count famine deaths mind though this is only an estimate.

2017-11-07 03:25:05 UTC  

And the one taken was done by people without any education who just learned to read.

2017-11-07 03:25:50 UTC  

If we count Ukraine now and 6 years ago there is 10 million death "estimate" with the same logic. But people just relocated.

2017-11-07 03:26:14 UTC  

Except no its not.

2017-11-07 03:26:27 UTC  

The figure accounts for migration and excess births.

2017-11-07 03:26:44 UTC  

@D-H how?

2017-11-07 03:29:25 UTC  

The same way Jacques Vallin estimates his figure using the 1939 census.

2017-11-07 03:30:34 UTC  

@D-H How did they account migration?

2017-11-07 03:31:27 UTC  

By the same logic second holodomor just happened.

2017-11-07 03:31:42 UTC  

They estimate it like any other demographic study based on the available data.

2017-11-07 03:31:53 UTC  

@D-H Like which data?

2017-11-07 03:32:08 UTC  

Do you want the study?

2017-11-07 03:32:20 UTC  

That's all he wants.

2017-11-07 03:32:33 UTC  

Cause honestly 90% of all your questions could be answered by just reading it.

2017-11-07 03:32:38 UTC  

I want to know how migration is counted.

2017-11-07 03:32:52 UTC  

I assume you've read it.

2017-11-07 03:33:24 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 What do you think about gay people

2017-11-07 03:33:26 UTC  

I have, but I didn't sign up to play 21 questions ether.

2017-11-07 03:33:35 UTC  

I did

2017-11-07 03:34:33 UTC  

@D-H It is not the study that types in this chat but you. If you make the statement **you** answer for it.

2017-11-07 03:35:16 UTC  

I made a statement, I gave the answer, if you would like to know I can quote the piece that estimates migration then.

2017-11-07 03:35:26 UTC  

Can you prove it was not immigration but death?

2017-11-07 03:36:05 UTC  

It's an estimate made off from the available data that we have.

2017-11-07 03:36:30 UTC  

@D-H does it prove anything?

2017-11-07 03:37:08 UTC  

You should be asking that about the death toll in the first place. A high death toll doesn't mean anything.

2017-11-07 03:37:28 UTC  

Genocide can be genocide even if only 1 million people died.

2017-11-07 03:37:54 UTC  

@D-H I'm asking if there is a prove it is death and not simply relocation.

2017-11-07 03:38:05 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/377300651404689418/pt0EdrV.png

2017-11-07 03:38:17 UTC  

Just right now on our eyes we had 10 mil Ukrainians relocating.

2017-11-07 03:38:35 UTC  

It surveys the whole of the USSR.

2017-11-07 03:38:42 UTC  

First woman in space 🤔

2017-11-07 03:38:48 UTC  

They better have had a kitchen in that spaceship

2017-11-07 03:38:53 UTC  

They wouldn't miss 3 million people.

2017-11-07 03:39:12 UTC  

They invented more than just that

2017-11-07 03:41:23 UTC  

@D-H Do you realize there were no government in most of USSR till 1935 or so and Ukraine being a black hole in terms of data? Do you know that Soviet Government **could not** have much data?

2017-11-07 03:41:56 UTC  

The soviets had a pretty firm hold on Ukraine...

2017-11-07 03:42:27 UTC  

"no government in most of USSR"

2017-11-07 03:42:28 UTC  

What?

2017-11-07 03:42:35 UTC  

Lol

2017-11-07 03:43:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/377302061462716416/8c49801fda7ce2fa2624768e54b550a3.png