By the way, the US probably is going to be the last country to become socialist

ok

@olev *Not when the day of rope comes and we take it over and begin the formation of the organic state*

Just the revolution must be exported from the third world to the first world because the first world has the necessary productive forces to lead socialism

Whereas if it's a backwards country like russia

A bureaucracy arises because they can't handle the problems that have already been solved by countries that have advanced capitalism

In all seriousness, socialism has little chance of remerging as a dominant form of ideology in a country today.

The USSR made it really unappealing.

The USSR wasn't socialist

>Muh not real socialist
How so?

Okay first of all

In the marxist sense, socialism is a mode of production where production is for use, coordinated by economic planning and distributed according to contribution via labor vouchers

@montvid Take note big jew,I feel like there is a big paragraph coming up.

Obviously this can not co-exist with capitalism

@olev No shit, the USSR tried that and it died.

WAIT A MINUTE

Labor vouchers?

The USSR had money and commodity production

Yes

You mean currency?

Labor vouchers

Labor vouchers aren't transferable and you can't amass them

Jeez, for a jew like marx to rebrand money in a such a way, he was pretty clever.

So you just get taxed out the ass and you can't store them to places like banks?

@olev You there big jew? Did your internet go out or something?

I'm not a jew

What do you mean taxed out the ass

There is no tax

If you cannot keep them and are forced to give them up, then you are essentially being taxed by 100%.

Well I imagine they'd have an expiration date

That is going to be a huge pain in the ass for the state to keep printing them out for a currency that has to be used extremely quickly unless it becomes invalidated.

It would just be worthwhile keep them fluctuating within the economy.

Sure, there could be a useby date that stated that you would have to use them by a certain date unless you get sent to a gulag for being a capitalist porko, but that would be the extent of it.

Well it's based off of how many hours you work

And things are priced based upon how many hours they took to produce

So under this system, you could actually buy back what you produce, you cannot in capitalism

Oh for fucks sake, this is almost identitical to a capitalist system.

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You would get a certain amount of good boy points based off of how many hours you work, AKA a wage, and items would be priced on how long it took to produce them, AKA, how much quality (hopefully) was put into them, (If not, you could just sit on your ass all day and exploit the system and inflate prices.), so in otherwords, the company would price them based on how much effort and resources were needed to produce them, and of course, there would be a few extra good boy points needed, because otherwise there is no profit in making your items.

"company"

I don't think you know what you're talking about