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2017-11-18 00:09:33 UTC  

@Deleted User A LARPer

2017-11-18 00:09:39 UTC  

🤔

2017-11-18 00:09:41 UTC  

ok

2017-11-18 00:09:44 UTC  

@olev HAH, you are not wrong about that.

2017-11-18 00:09:49 UTC  

By the way, the US probably is going to be the last country to become socialist

2017-11-18 00:10:02 UTC  

ok

2017-11-18 00:10:18 UTC  

@olev *Not when the day of rope comes and we take it over and begin the formation of the organic state*

2017-11-18 00:10:48 UTC  

Just the revolution must be exported from the third world to the first world because the first world has the necessary productive forces to lead socialism

2017-11-18 00:10:56 UTC  

Whereas if it's a backwards country like russia

2017-11-18 00:11:28 UTC  

A bureaucracy arises because they can't handle the problems that have already been solved by countries that have advanced capitalism

2017-11-18 00:11:33 UTC  

In all seriousness, socialism has little chance of remerging as a dominant form of ideology in a country today.

2017-11-18 00:11:50 UTC  

The USSR made it really unappealing.

2017-11-18 00:12:00 UTC  

The USSR wasn't socialist

2017-11-18 00:12:10 UTC  

>Muh not real socialist
How so?

2017-11-18 00:12:16 UTC  

Okay first of all

2017-11-18 00:13:32 UTC  

In the marxist sense, socialism is a mode of production where production is for use, coordinated by economic planning and distributed according to contribution via labor vouchers

2017-11-18 00:13:34 UTC  

@montvid Take note big jew,I feel like there is a big paragraph coming up.

2017-11-18 00:13:45 UTC  

Obviously this can not co-exist with capitalism

2017-11-18 00:14:04 UTC  

@olev No shit, the USSR tried that and it died.

2017-11-18 00:14:12 UTC  

WAIT A MINUTE

2017-11-18 00:14:16 UTC  

Labor vouchers?

2017-11-18 00:14:17 UTC  

The USSR had money and commodity production

2017-11-18 00:14:19 UTC  

Yes

2017-11-18 00:14:21 UTC  

You mean currency?

2017-11-18 00:14:21 UTC  

Labor vouchers

2017-11-18 00:14:40 UTC  

Labor vouchers aren't transferable and you can't amass them

2017-11-18 00:14:47 UTC  

Jeez, for a jew like marx to rebrand money in a such a way, he was pretty clever.

2017-11-18 00:15:33 UTC  

So you just get taxed out the ass and you can't store them to places like banks?

2017-11-18 00:17:35 UTC  

@olev You there big jew? Did your internet go out or something?

2017-11-18 00:18:40 UTC  

I'm not a jew

2017-11-18 00:18:56 UTC  

What do you mean taxed out the ass

2017-11-18 00:18:58 UTC  

There is no tax

2017-11-18 00:19:23 UTC  

If you cannot keep them and are forced to give them up, then you are essentially being taxed by 100%.

2017-11-18 00:20:44 UTC  

Well I imagine they'd have an expiration date

2017-11-18 00:22:43 UTC  

That is going to be a huge pain in the ass for the state to keep printing them out for a currency that has to be used extremely quickly unless it becomes invalidated.

2017-11-18 00:23:15 UTC  

It would just be worthwhile keep them fluctuating within the economy.

2017-11-18 00:24:16 UTC  

Sure, there could be a useby date that stated that you would have to use them by a certain date unless you get sent to a gulag for being a capitalist porko, but that would be the extent of it.

2017-11-18 00:25:21 UTC  

Well it's based off of how many hours you work

2017-11-18 00:25:43 UTC  

And things are priced based upon how many hours they took to produce

2017-11-18 00:25:59 UTC  

So under this system, you could actually buy back what you produce, you cannot in capitalism

2017-11-18 00:26:16 UTC  

Oh for fucks sake, this is almost identitical to a capitalist system.