Message from @quiscalus
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they were basing it off the fed's interest rates
they wanted to stimulate the housing market
so they tried stimulating the housing market
they ended up stimulating the housing market too much
then pop
I am not sure markets are the best way to make sure people get what they need, maybe what they want but not what they need
markets are the only way people can get what they need
without markets, you must either make your own food daily or have the government feed you
and the government will not feed you, you can bet on that
hasn't the state provided goods and services in the past and made sure the it was based on need over wealth?
well, they have provided goods
what about healthcare many modern western nations have universal healthcare
however, every time a government does this for a certain sector of the market, it ends up doing a worse job than the private sector
The subprime mortgage crises contributed to the recession, yes. Subprime lending and speculation were major factors. What preceded the crisis was a housing bubble financed with mortgage-backed securities and collaterized debt obligations which initially had higher interest rates than government securities.
no matter how good it may sound, giving the government power over some market always makes it worse
needed medical care is run by the state, luxury medical care like cosmetic surgery is a private affair
well yes, and the fed stimulated that bubble
if healthcare was left up to the private sector, that will lead to competition, which means = higher quality care and lower prices
in the long term it will be beneficial
moving from government to private is always a rough transition in the short term
I wouldn't be so against tmarkets and private sector if distribution of goods and services weren't solely based on income and were based on need
well that is the thing
that may be the case, but the government can't provide for peoples' needs
it's impossible
you've seen it tried in the ussr
then what happened
food shortages
starvation
bread lines
not just in the ussr
if that is so why isn't the country with the highest life expectancy a country with only private healthcare?
cuba
name other socialist states
everywhere you will find food shortages
I think the main issue is the lack of democracy in situations of a command economy
no, the problem is the command economy
democracy just lets you elect a new dictator in a command economy
if you have people having no say in what needs to be produced and leave it to bureaucrats you are probably much worse off
well yes of course
I am not for a total command economy I would like to make sure the state provides the needs of the people but I would like to see some luxury items provided by the market
well see you're missing the point of the free market