Message from @Trve Metalist
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Who here is familiar with the book 'Rules for radicals'?
I have heard of it
I never read it
I am. I have a copy on my shelf. It's an interesting read and Saul Alinsky was a great organizer.
He was certainly worthy of the title, "Father of Community Organizing". His tactics have been proven effective time and time again.
@Deleted User True that.
do you guys know many anarchists? I have lots of friends that identify that way and never handle any cases of interpersonal violence in a constructive manner people do really bad things towards each other like sexual assault but refuse to involve the state so people who commit the crimes go unpunished but just are shunned by some and spoken ill of on social media
Well, Gary is an Anarcho-Stalinist.. ;P
I am not for vigilantism in the least and the whole situation frustrates me to no end
Here is a pdf of the book I strongly suggest everyone reads it:https://chisineu.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/saul-alinsky-rules-for-radicals-1989.pdf
thanks
I've met a few serious anarchists and lifestylists, but their idealism and complete disconnect from reality was far from appealing. I also went through a phase, around the time I joined the IWW, where I considered myself an Anarcho-Syndicalist. I enjoyed reading Insurrectionary Anarchist literature as well. Lol
The earth is flat
Btw
I am think there is a serious flaws in the criminal justice system and major abuses by the police but I don't reject the idea as a whole, I just hate to see people who really harm others not punished in any way or if innocent slandered with no recourse
the problem with police is that they serve the interests of the rich and elite
like I have friends that ended up murdering a person in a robbery for drugs and my leftist friends want them to go free, I think it is absurdf
Punishment does nothing
not to protect and serve the people
Literally
It’s all about rehabilitation
Not punishment
Exactly. They exist only to protect and serve the interests of the bourgeoisie.
Um you know that’s not true right
Um, I know it is.
That is not there sole purpose
I think he should do what is best to help society function well and reform people but I am not against a rigged system in favor of no system at all
If you think that you are beyond delusional
like my old friend and roommate murdered someone and my friends don't think the state should act
@black jack What is their purpose? Please explain before I embarass you.
protecting and serving people comes after the interest of the bourg tho
All I see is stupid republicans, and idiotic liberals, and I'm just here like "I just want lil peep back"
tbh xanax and codeine addicts are truly today what the hippies where in the 60s
I am not a huge fan of the music he did but I think we should handle drugs and addiction better
they are the true anti system
That the role of police is regularly brought to the centre of things is testimony to the crucial and apparently contradictory role they play in this society. Within the line of their work, they accomplish some seemingly positive things. For example, they may break up fights, arrest insane serial killers and if we are to believe modern televised mythology, help fragile old people cross hazardous city street corners. Then again, any striking worker that has had to deal with them knows they always defend the bosses interests, anybody who has any knowledge of the judicial system knows that they literally all lie under oath and anybody who was brought up in a poor working class neighbourhood has witnessed or experienced their abuse. Of course capitalists, politicians and media propagandists refer only to the former activities to actively promote the police in any way they can. Copwatch liberals and other critical apologists for the police will generally dismiss the latter activities and denounce "isolated cases", rogue cops and call for community control commissions or enquiries on individual incidents.
For most people, the concept of State is associated with legislatures and politicians. This is a very partial view of its content. Besides these institutions must be added the bureaucracy, the judicial apparatus, the clergy, the media, the army, and... the police. The police are the first line of the “bodies of armed men” (4) that are intended to defend the interest of the ruling class. If their real function was to stop crime, they would arrest every capitalist on the planet, as these are the true criminals and their regime the real source of all crime.
Unlike the worker whose interest is to get rid of the boss’s rule, the existence of the police is directly tied to the maintenance of the State and capitalist property relations. In this sense, in no way can cops or prison guards be seen as members of the working class as the trade unions would want us to believe.
I think in a more ideal state they would serve the interests of the people as compared to serving the interests of the people with power in society but I am not against the idea of law enforcement, laws, of the judicial system
Yeah, I agree. I am not at all opposed to something like a "Peoples Militia" or "Community Police Force".