If that isn’t true then socialism doesn’t exist

Because that is where the definition comes from

There was communist thought even in ancient greece

Now we are back to many definitions

Where do you get your definition

The idea of socialism existed before marx lmao

But did he define it

Not really, he used socialism and communism interchangably

Instead he split it into lower stage communism and higher stage communism

But later in the 20th century, marxists started using socialism to mean lower stage communism

So then the definition of socialism doesn’t exist

Yes there is a definition

From where

Don’t type it source it

You realize that definitions aren't always correct right

So there isn’t a definition

There's variance in defintions between marriem webster, oxford, ect

So there isn’t a set definition

We are back to olevism now

What the fuck are you on about

That socialism has no definition

You don’t even agree with it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

“There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them”

So there is no set definition

There are many

Most socialists agree on that socialism is the social ownership and democratic management of the means of production

But that doesn't include the mode of production

lets control the means of reproduction

olev

i might be a communist if it were nationalistic

maybe

Can you cite where most socialists believe that

I mean if you go on r/socialism they literally have the definition on the sidebar

So r/socialism is most socialists

What do you expect, a fucking poll/

There's different words for a reason

If you are so bold to say hitler wasn’t a socialist then give me a definition that is set

There's a reason "social democracy" is a seperate word from socialism

Social democrats are not socialists

If the definition can be changed then he was a socialist