Message from @black jack

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2017-12-11 17:56:03 UTC  

Or the definition

2017-12-11 17:56:11 UTC  

Marx didn't invent socialism

2017-12-11 17:56:17 UTC  

If that isn’t true then socialism doesn’t exist

2017-12-11 17:56:28 UTC  

Because that is where the definition comes from

2017-12-11 17:56:32 UTC  

There was communist thought even in ancient greece

2017-12-11 17:56:47 UTC  

Now we are back to many definitions

2017-12-11 17:57:16 UTC  

Where do you get your definition

2017-12-11 17:57:18 UTC  

The idea of socialism existed before marx lmao

2017-12-11 17:57:33 UTC  

But did he define it

2017-12-11 17:57:56 UTC  

Not really, he used socialism and communism interchangably

2017-12-11 17:58:25 UTC  

Instead he split it into lower stage communism and higher stage communism

2017-12-11 17:58:41 UTC  

But later in the 20th century, marxists started using socialism to mean lower stage communism

2017-12-11 17:58:42 UTC  

So then the definition of socialism doesn’t exist

2017-12-11 17:59:16 UTC  

Yes there is a definition

2017-12-11 17:59:21 UTC  

From where

2017-12-11 17:59:31 UTC  

Don’t type it source it

2017-12-11 17:59:49 UTC  

You realize that definitions aren't always correct right

2017-12-11 18:00:02 UTC  

So there isn’t a definition

2017-12-11 18:00:08 UTC  

There's variance in defintions between marriem webster, oxford, ect

2017-12-11 18:00:22 UTC  

So there isn’t a set definition

2017-12-11 18:00:29 UTC  

We are back to olevism now

2017-12-11 18:00:40 UTC  

What the fuck are you on about

2017-12-11 18:00:52 UTC  

That socialism has no definition

2017-12-11 18:01:02 UTC  

You don’t even agree with it

2017-12-11 18:02:54 UTC  

“There are many varieties of socialism and there is no single definition encapsulating all of them”

2017-12-11 18:03:10 UTC  

So there is no set definition

2017-12-11 18:03:16 UTC  

There are many

2017-12-11 18:03:27 UTC  

Most socialists agree on that socialism is the social ownership and democratic management of the means of production

2017-12-11 18:03:32 UTC  

But that doesn't include the mode of production

2017-12-11 18:03:46 UTC  

lets control the means of reproduction

2017-12-11 18:03:50 UTC  

olev

2017-12-11 18:03:58 UTC  

i might be a communist if it were nationalistic

2017-12-11 18:04:00 UTC  

maybe

2017-12-11 18:04:13 UTC  

Can you cite where most socialists believe that

2017-12-11 18:04:47 UTC  

I mean if you go on r/socialism they literally have the definition on the sidebar

2017-12-11 18:05:32 UTC  

So r/socialism is most socialists

2017-12-11 18:05:46 UTC  

What do you expect, a fucking poll/

2017-12-11 18:06:05 UTC  

There's different words for a reason

2017-12-11 18:06:14 UTC  

If you are so bold to say hitler wasn’t a socialist then give me a definition that is set

2017-12-11 18:06:15 UTC  

There's a reason "social democracy" is a seperate word from socialism