Message from @Deleted User

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2017-12-24 05:11:41 UTC  

You mean the person who had superior manipulation tactics?

2017-12-24 05:11:50 UTC  

Sure.

2017-12-24 05:11:57 UTC  

Realpolitik.

2017-12-24 05:14:17 UTC  

Not that I really care. Everything ends in ruins.

2017-12-24 05:15:23 UTC  

According to historical and dialectical materialism I'm supposed to be invested in the worker class, but I am not. Couldn't care less.

2017-12-24 05:21:05 UTC  

The thing is, revolution is relatively easy. After that small battle you can say any ideology is responsible for your success, even God. And administration is also not very difficult, especially totalitarian kind with is brutish measures. That too can be claimed to be achieved by some special ideology. But really, at what point is the ideology really responsible? It is just all pragmatism up until this point, and not even the best kind,. Where can Marxism say "Here, this was achieve because of our theory". No where.

2017-12-24 05:29:34 UTC  

Where can any one?

2017-12-24 05:31:20 UTC  

Too much of the left is stuck in analysis. The martial ideas are the ones most readily validated.

2017-12-24 05:31:51 UTC  

But even then, who can account for what?

2017-12-24 05:32:32 UTC  

@Deleted User >Revolution
>Adminitstration
>Ideology
>All of these are easy to achieve/understand

2017-12-24 05:32:56 UTC  

They are commonplace.

2017-12-24 05:33:18 UTC  

Unremarkable.

2017-12-24 05:33:23 UTC  

Part of society.

2017-12-24 05:33:25 UTC  

What do you mean by that?

2017-12-24 05:34:05 UTC  

You don't need Marxism to accomplish any of these.

2017-12-24 05:34:22 UTC  

They are staples of human existence.

2017-12-24 05:35:36 UTC  

Nope, I don't see evidence of early humans making bureacracies, ideologies, or political revolutions.

2017-12-24 05:36:31 UTC  

Early humans had plenty of social structures, what?

2017-12-24 05:36:56 UTC  

Many struggles for power and upheavals.

2017-12-24 05:37:02 UTC  

Yep, social structures =/= a buracracy, ideology, or political revolution.

2017-12-24 05:37:33 UTC  

Hell, politicts are not even a THING back then!

2017-12-24 05:37:55 UTC  

Anyway, it's not about early humans, it's about Marxism being redundant in this area.

2017-12-24 05:38:25 UTC  

So it is redundant to human nature then?

2017-12-24 05:39:07 UTC  

That's a loaded word. I was more saying it adds no further insight into practical matters of governance etc.

2017-12-24 05:39:27 UTC  

All the successes of Marxisms are just normal practical achievements.

2017-12-24 05:39:53 UTC  

Which could have been achieved without it.

2017-12-24 05:40:35 UTC  

So.... what is the point of it then? If it is just piggy backing off of other systems?

2017-12-24 05:43:13 UTC  

It's just fluff. For whatever reason human's like to make up imaginary reasons for their successes. It must serve some other practical function, like promoting legitimacy or creating sense of worthiness.

2017-12-24 05:44:14 UTC  

It's annoying and confusing.

2017-12-24 05:50:04 UTC  

I don't even know if people would be better without it. Maybe I should just give up trying to explain and understand it. Different forces and ideas just dance around, someone win and some lose. It doesn't really matter who is wrong or right, that only fact is that they exist.

2017-12-24 05:54:32 UTC  

Maybe the assumption that humans should engage as rational, independent actors is the most flawed of all.

2017-12-24 06:01:00 UTC  

Yhea, you should, marxism now is complete and utter fucking nonsense.

2017-12-24 06:18:53 UTC  

What isn't nonsense though?

2017-12-24 08:26:56 UTC  

In case any of you get pregnant

2017-12-24 09:48:59 UTC  

I am a male. I don't live life on the edge. Thanks for the advice, but I will not be getting pregnant anytime soon.

2017-12-24 09:49:01 UTC  

Play it safe.

2017-12-24 09:49:23 UTC  

You should only abort a baby if it threatens the life of the mother or it has a severe mental/physical condition

2017-12-24 09:49:39 UTC  

No, just kill the baby for fun!!

2017-12-24 09:49:56 UTC  

I am anti abortion