Message from @Deleted User

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2019-06-28 19:40:12 UTC  

as you always have ppl that are supposed to tell others what to do when you work in a collective

2019-06-28 19:40:29 UTC  

you are bringing forth a imposibility that you know from half assed book reading

2019-06-28 19:40:42 UTC  

You wil always be in need of some one doing the organizing

2019-06-28 19:40:43 UTC  

Really? People cannot advise each other? Is that an imposition of force?

2019-06-28 19:40:49 UTC  

this is the stae

2019-06-28 19:41:02 UTC  

Furthere more showing that you do not know my ideology

2019-06-28 19:41:20 UTC  

i believe in city state communism with resource based trade between the state cities

2019-06-28 19:41:53 UTC  

You do not need a institute for segragation with this, again a wrong assumintion of you

2019-06-28 19:42:18 UTC  

And no some ppl can not advice others because of biological determinism

2019-06-28 19:43:35 UTC  

**you choked**

2019-06-28 19:43:50 UTC  

Do you know what a state is?

2019-06-28 19:44:06 UTC  

Again with teh question diversion

2019-06-28 19:44:21 UTC  

It's relevant. I want to know what you mean by 'state'.

2019-06-28 19:44:29 UTC  

city state

2019-06-28 19:44:38 UTC  

do you know the history of communsim

2019-06-28 19:44:43 UTC  

No, as in what the state is and how it functions.

2019-06-28 19:44:46 UTC  

like old ass history

2019-06-28 19:44:57 UTC  

Do you know what a city state is ?

2019-06-28 19:45:03 UTC  

I know that Communist movements required states, but they were busy trying to prepare the ground for socialism.

2019-06-28 19:45:30 UTC  

You need some for of organization that steers the collective in to the direction of the common goals. this is the state

2019-06-28 19:45:51 UTC  

the whole commuinist revolution in russia was nothing but a change of rulers

2019-06-28 19:46:04 UTC  

rulers with out care for the ppl

2019-06-28 19:46:13 UTC  

thgis is why many think states are bad

2019-06-28 19:46:17 UTC  

but they are not

2019-06-28 19:46:24 UTC  

per se or by definition

2019-06-28 19:47:20 UTC  

That sounds like an anarchist's idea of government rather than the Marxist idea of the state.

2019-06-28 19:47:33 UTC  

no because narchist dont have government

2019-06-28 19:47:45 UTC  

jees, you have issues keeping communism and anarchy appart man

2019-06-28 19:47:47 UTC  

Anarchism is anti-state, not anti-government, or at least not anti governance.

2019-06-28 19:48:51 UTC  

There is always going to be a collective interest, yes, but it is not set in stone, and it does not have to be imposed by political force and suppression of dissent.

2019-06-28 19:49:26 UTC  

This suppression of dissent is necessary when resources are too scarce and there isn't enough effort focussed upon beating back scarcity.

2019-06-28 19:49:43 UTC  

are you saying that governments dont have their power true force?

2019-06-28 19:49:56 UTC  

>power true force

2019-06-28 19:50:05 UTC  

so you are saying yes

2019-06-28 19:50:08 UTC  

O King of Nuance, what does that mean?

2019-06-28 19:50:15 UTC  

a gorvernment has its power true force

2019-06-28 19:50:26 UTC  

What does 'power true force' mean?

2019-06-28 19:50:29 UTC  

It is a simple yes or no

2019-06-28 19:50:36 UTC  

how hard can it be to awnser

2019-06-28 19:50:42 UTC  

jesus

2019-06-28 19:50:47 UTC  

having power true force