But these have rules and laws with penalties

this is not anarchy

**it's never good when I do it, though, is it?**

Nevertheless...

Let us revise our terms, for we are now referring to different things.

You use two words, 'state' and 'government' to refer to the same thing.

I use them to refer to two different things.

"And you didn't know what I meant by that, did you? Always assuming." **This is what you said : **

Let's put those words aside and comment on what we're actually referring to.

You are flip flopping

Yes, and you're assuming what I meant when I said 'government'.

That word has a definition that is set

Does it?

lol i assumed what your interpertation of a words meaing is 😄

Yes, you did.

**ring a bell?**

***like when you thought I was backing what you were saying?***

For that reason im out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government

Let's both play the Wikipedia game!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(polity)

they are the same picture

Neither are wanted by anarachist like you said they wopuld be

>gubbermind: __often__ (not always) a state
>state: centralised

Nice try, but even this little exercise of yours failed.

"Nice try, but even this little exercise of yours failed."

>memegenerator

you said anarchist were not anti government. but they are

Prove it.

Let's play the Wikipedia game again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism

Lets use your link from wiki "A widely-used definition is a state being a polity that, within a given territory, maintains a monopoly on the use of force,"

Yeah, that was on the 'state' page.

Not the 'government' page!

Yeah and this link of yours shows that a state or government is against their vallues.

It actually said something about 'self-governance'.

I already explained the government reason with my link

A government has rules and pusnishments

remeber me saying that

anararchist dont want rules

I don't see anything about that on the 'anarchism' page.