pretty basic concept

Without *what* force?

A state needs to suppress dissent through a certain kind of political force in order to keep its political monopoly. This is the Marxist understanding of what a state is.

But a government has laws and pusnishments

they are pretty much the same thing

Anarchist dont want states nor governments

as they are basically the same thing

you dont even know what anacrist are

I do; I know that they want organisation but without the imposing force of the state.

No you said they would liek governments

"they are not anti government"

And you didn't know what I meant by that, did you? Always assuming.

But these have rules and laws with penalties

this is not anarchy

**it's never good when I do it, though, is it?**

Nevertheless...

Let us revise our terms, for we are now referring to different things.

You use two words, 'state' and 'government' to refer to the same thing.

I use them to refer to two different things.

"And you didn't know what I meant by that, did you? Always assuming." **This is what you said : **

Let's put those words aside and comment on what we're actually referring to.

You are flip flopping

Yes, and you're assuming what I meant when I said 'government'.

That word has a definition that is set

Does it?

lol i assumed what your interpertation of a words meaing is 😄

Yes, you did.

**ring a bell?**

***like when you thought I was backing what you were saying?***

For that reason im out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government

Let's both play the Wikipedia game!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_(polity)

they are the same picture

Neither are wanted by anarachist like you said they wopuld be

>gubbermind: __often__ (not always) a state
>state: centralised

Nice try, but even this little exercise of yours failed.

"Nice try, but even this little exercise of yours failed."

>memegenerator

you said anarchist were not anti government. but they are

Prove it.