Message from @Garbage

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2019-06-28 20:07:50 UTC  

But you never proved that they don't want a state.

2019-06-28 20:08:01 UTC  

And you were the one who was bringing up Wikipedia in the first place.

2019-06-28 20:08:06 UTC  

lol

2019-06-28 20:08:11 UTC  

So if it's not there, then why even bother with it?

2019-06-28 20:08:20 UTC  

I'm referring to the whole page.

2019-06-28 20:08:21 UTC  

i just proved the reason why they did not want a state with your wiki

2019-06-28 20:08:27 UTC  

and now you already forggoten it

2019-06-28 20:08:36 UTC  

You did not make a proof at all.

2019-06-28 20:09:14 UTC  

yes i did, ""Lets use your link from wiki "A widely-used definition is a state being a polity that, within a given territory, maintains a monopoly on the use of force,""

2019-06-28 20:09:40 UTC  

being under a monopoly by force is not the anarcist way

2019-06-28 20:10:04 UTC  

That does not mean that 'making rules' is statist.

2019-06-28 20:10:19 UTC  

The point is that one would be able to go and choose someone else's rules.

2019-06-28 20:10:38 UTC  

That's what the anarchists want.

2019-06-28 20:10:39 UTC  

What are you even talking about

2019-06-28 20:10:55 UTC  

it isnt even relevant as it also states that a state is a polity

2019-06-28 20:11:02 UTC  

You don't have to have a state to make socially-enforced rules at all.

2019-06-28 20:11:03 UTC  

a anarchist does not wants to be in a polity

2019-06-28 20:11:15 UTC  

You dont know what words mean yet you claim to read books

2019-06-28 20:11:38 UTC  

Where did it say on the anarchism page that they don't want to be in their own polity?

2019-06-28 20:11:51 UTC  

"Anarchism is an anti-authoritarian political philosophy[1] that rejects hierarchies deemed unjust and advocates their replacement with self-managed, self-governed societies based on voluntary, cooperative institutions. These institutions are often described as stateless societies,[2] although several authors have defined them more specifically as distinct institutions based on non-hierarchical or free associations.[3] Anarchism's central disagreement with other ideologies is that it holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful.[4]"

2019-06-28 20:11:56 UTC  

>self-managed

2019-06-28 20:11:59 UTC  

>self-governed

2019-06-28 20:12:01 UTC  

the absense of evidence is not counter evidence itself

2019-06-28 20:12:11 UTC  

your line of reasonong is retard

2019-06-28 20:12:28 UTC  

It's not just a case of the anarchism page falling silent on the matter.

2019-06-28 20:12:29 UTC  

Does a anarcist wants to be in a heiracy?

2019-06-28 20:12:33 UTC  

It's saying that you're wrong.

2019-06-28 20:12:40 UTC  

>government = hierarchy

2019-06-28 20:12:43 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/360983468286410764/594258903638999047/unknown.png

2019-06-28 20:12:50 UTC  

dont side track in to governments

2019-06-28 20:13:04 UTC  

does a anarcist wants a hieracy?

2019-06-28 20:13:06 UTC  

No, I can go one better. It said 'unjust hierarchies'.

2019-06-28 20:13:38 UTC  

**...such as those which are not imposed by force upon people!**

2019-06-28 20:13:52 UTC  

Oke, source ,

2019-06-28 20:14:03 UTC  

And he calls me the amnesiac.

2019-06-28 20:14:04 UTC  

"Anarchism is an anti-authoritarian political philosophy[1] that rejects hierarchies deemed unjust and advocates their replacement with self-managed, self-governed societies based on voluntary, cooperative institutions. These institutions are often described as stateless societies,[2] although several authors have defined them more specifically as distinct institutions based on non-hierarchical or free associations.[3] Anarchism's central disagreement with other ideologies is that it holds the state to be undesirable, unnecessary, and harmful.[4]"

2019-06-28 20:14:21 UTC  

>**hierarchies deemed unjust**

2019-06-28 20:15:15 UTC  

>that rejects hierarchies
>and advocates their replacement with self-managed, self-governed societies based on voluntary, cooperative institutions.

2019-06-28 20:15:24 UTC  

So that is not gorenment

2019-06-28 20:15:28 UTC  

*unjust hierarchies*