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2019-06-28 20:37:11 UTC  

No, because one would be able to associate with other people.

2019-06-28 20:37:17 UTC  

Wtf

2019-06-28 20:37:31 UTC  

I'm using what I think their arguments are.

2019-06-28 20:37:41 UTC  

if you get driven out by a anarchist government, you will jsut associate with others ?

2019-06-28 20:37:46 UTC  

Yes!

2019-06-28 20:37:57 UTC  

They'd say that finding alternatives should be easy.

2019-06-28 20:38:00 UTC  

But now you just assumed again

2019-06-28 20:38:07 UTC  

you assumed that the agreement was banishment

2019-06-28 20:38:10 UTC  

instead of death

2019-06-28 20:38:18 UTC  

you simply created a strawmen

2019-06-28 20:38:34 UTC  

Some anarchists would say that there would not need to be any death involved.

2019-06-28 20:38:40 UTC  

Simply the cutting of social ties.

2019-06-28 20:38:55 UTC  

Some anarchist would say that it is okay to have a government that banishes ppl

2019-06-28 20:39:05 UTC  

?

2019-06-28 20:39:07 UTC  

really??

2019-06-28 20:39:31 UTC  

Yes, but the argument is that they can still get what they want through another collective...

2019-06-28 20:39:56 UTC  

But they are forced out

2019-06-28 20:39:58 UTC  

by rules

2019-06-28 20:40:07 UTC  

something that is anti anarcist 😄

2019-06-28 20:40:37 UTC  

They are forced out of their homes , away from their friends

2019-06-28 20:40:43 UTC  

because the government said so

2019-06-28 20:40:51 UTC  

Thats more of a domocrazy

2019-06-28 20:41:08 UTC  

Not really anacy now is t

2019-06-28 20:41:11 UTC  

Again, rules aren't anti-anarchist, and enforcement of those rules is not statist as far as anarchists are concerned.

2019-06-28 20:41:42 UTC  

It can be done in a way which doesn't unnecessarily make a perpetrator suffer more than they need to.

2019-06-28 20:42:09 UTC  

But that would mean that theere is a hiercayy

2019-06-28 20:42:23 UTC  

thate theer is a power greater then the person that controls the person 😄

2019-06-28 20:42:49 UTC  

But that person would be able to control that power too to the greatest extent, the anarchists would say.

2019-06-28 20:43:08 UTC  

No because that person is bansihed by set person with set power

2019-06-28 20:43:24 UTC  

and what causes the person to leave? force perhaps 😄

2019-06-28 20:44:02 UTC  

'set person'

2019-06-28 20:44:42 UTC  

You could even say 'everyone else', but that wouldn't matter to them; it would mean nothing beyond a short term loss for the perpetrator which they'd be able to recover from wholly.

2019-06-28 20:44:50 UTC  

All because they'd find another group.

2019-06-28 20:45:07 UTC  

And I would respond that the perp would run out of groups.

2019-06-28 20:45:16 UTC  

you are diverting and digressing again

2019-06-28 20:45:48 UTC  

You dont seem to understand that the ruleset you ascribe to anarcisht is anti anarchist

2019-06-28 20:45:49 UTC  

Why? What I've actually done is steel man your point, i.e. take down a stronger claim than the one that you've advanced.

2019-06-28 20:46:21 UTC  

But again, you haven't proved that what you say anarchists believe in is what they do believe in.

2019-06-28 20:46:29 UTC  

And in fact, I would say that anarchists are crypto-statists!

2019-06-28 20:46:31 UTC  

if you get banished that institute is not free

2019-06-28 20:46:47 UTC  

And they would say that it is, despite all of the contradictions which come with it.