It's what Americans do.

they are pretty much the same a government is a state but a state is not a government per se

and you claimed that anarchist are not anti government

Notice how you bring up the anarchy thing again through the 'compromise' controversy when I start talking about how disputes are made.

Whic also is not mentioned on the wiki 😄

>self-governance

Hols onm you claim that i bring up the anarchy thing

when its is you

Look who's repeating themselves again with the 'i'm not disagreeing with WP but i am' line.

who brings up teh wiki about the anarchy thing 😄

you lying pos

You've proved *my* point, actually. You're claiming not to disagree but you are when you say 'governments are a subset of states'.

And notice how you've changed the subject *again*.

**Americans. Never trust them!**

As for the anarchy thing, you were the first to bring it up in this whole mess. I brought it up again of how you were being inconsistent when you said that I'm not entitled to act like the authority on this mess.

***This is coming from the person who first pulled up a Wikipedia page.***

***...the same person who couldn't agree with the pages his opponent brought up.***

I'll be back again, don't worry.

You won't be able to force me into a state of amnesia with these non-sequitur squabbles.

Psst. By the way, I never argued that Communists are completely free at a present moment, only that they can actually be freed to a maximal extent.

Left wing people living in Australia should join this active server with heaps of irl anti-capitalist activists. Come on in, edgelords get purged.
http://abolish.capital

You really fit the discription of a jew from mein campf, you seem to have forgotten everything said and claim victory
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-state-and-government/

What is your point, I am right

And it is you who aaccuse me of changing the subject when you are the one doing it

I said that you described anarachy because you said "you are free to do what ever you want "that is communism"". And i said that that was anarchy. So sure i brought the word up first, because you mixed up communism with anarchy and i called you out on that .

I never disagreed with wikipedia pages being brought up, this is implicating slander

>wikipedia didn't work, lemme use this! 'murica!

>>In the field of politics, the difference between state and government can be a little confusing. In a very general sense, the word state refers to the present state of someone or something in a given time. It also refers to a governed entity such as a province and even a country as a whole. A government, on the other hand, is a kind of agency through which authority is exercised by political units. The word government is only used as a noun while the word state is used as a noun as well as a verb.

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I said that you described anarachy because you said "you are free to do what ever you want "that is communism"". And i said that that was anarchy. So sure i brought the word up first, because you mixed up communism with anarchy and i called you out on that .```

I didn't, though. I said that the only limit to freedom in Communism is a lack of means to get whatever one is pursuing which is owed to nothing more than material conditions, i.e. resources. In modes of production where there are classes, there is a second limitation which is owed to different political interests.

In capitalism, we have the proletariat and the bourgeoisie. We also have intra-class and cross-class divisions. There are race wars, gender wars, fandom wars and so on.

There is no common goal at all which allows these people to act in accordance with their ideology and keep their ways of life with the current resources that we have.

The revolutionising of the means of production, which allows us to make more shit which works in a more effective manner, is not the only problem which is faced.

Groups lobby to secure a hegemony over the means of production as an identity-based group of people. Capitalism is the politics of generalised exclusive interests and the economics of generalised commodity production.

Everyone can have an identity, but some also have the advantage of hegemony. They tend to be those for whom the present order, going in its present direction, is most beneficial.

They see no need to make provisions for anyone who doesn't benefit them and strengthen their hegemony in some way.

**In short, bourgeois politics is identity politics.**

How does Communism relate to this? We destroy hegemonies to an ever-faster extent.

We are the enemies of normalcy and of the destructive wars of attrition which are necessary for groups to battle for hegemonies.