Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 15:45:14 UTC  

A lacl of succes? where is this comment comment comg from

2019-07-04 15:45:20 UTC  

You don't want to be part of any political movement which wants such a thing.

2019-07-04 15:45:35 UTC  

nice try ?you accused me of seing the future and being wrong

2019-07-04 15:45:37 UTC  

"Our lack of success" at being changelings.

2019-07-04 15:45:44 UTC  

but you can just make the predictions right

2019-07-04 15:46:02 UTC  

I'm not saying that it will exist, I'm saying that there's nothing to ultimately stop it.

2019-07-04 15:46:15 UTC  

There are are roadblocks, in fact.

2019-07-04 15:46:26 UTC  

One is our incompetence at using resources.

2019-07-04 15:46:39 UTC  

That's a limitation which is not inherent at a given level.

2019-07-04 15:46:52 UTC  

Its manifestations are not set in stone. We can learn to do things.

2019-07-04 15:47:02 UTC  

The second limitation is about a political fight.

2019-07-04 15:47:14 UTC  

It is about the aims of those who hold the means of production.

2019-07-04 15:47:16 UTC  

Even if theer was the ability to change dna of a living being to morph the living being which hasnt been know in nature ever , it would still be a massive resource drain to make every one equal true gentic manipulation

2019-07-04 15:47:26 UTC  

nor would it be desitable as you create a mono crop

2019-07-04 15:47:34 UTC  

and it would be genocide

2019-07-04 15:47:38 UTC  

>it didn't exist in nature

2019-07-04 15:47:46 UTC  

Do you know a example

2019-07-04 15:47:49 UTC  

Nor did an understanding of quantum physics.

2019-07-04 15:47:52 UTC  

Not an argument.

2019-07-04 15:48:01 UTC  

>massive resource drain

2019-07-04 15:48:10 UTC  

Compared to what? Our present resources?

2019-07-04 15:48:17 UTC  

You complain about ppl holding the means of production

2019-07-04 15:48:23 UTC  

but are yo a consumer or a producer

2019-07-04 15:48:33 UTC  

Yes, people with an *exclusive and dominant interest*.

2019-07-04 15:48:44 UTC  

Are you about to argue 'muh iPhones'?

2019-07-04 15:48:50 UTC  

you have this differnce , if every one would be a producer we would have zero need for a system or a state

2019-07-04 15:48:56 UTC  

but not every one is

2019-07-04 15:49:04 UTC  

and no one is all the time

2019-07-04 15:49:41 UTC  

And you believe that disputes that would arise from this (which you assume would exist in the first place) would need the force of a state to crush.

2019-07-04 15:49:45 UTC  

As for the resource drain, it tawould take a lot to make a biological being morph in to someting else

2019-07-04 15:49:47 UTC  

Here we go again.

2019-07-04 15:49:56 UTC  

even in some kind of bio chamber it would take time

2019-07-04 15:50:09 UTC  

time that will be taken away iof production time

2019-07-04 15:50:11 UTC  

But you don't know what technologies would exist.

2019-07-04 15:50:16 UTC  

it wouldnt be efficent

2019-07-04 15:50:26 UTC  

And you don't know about the scales of the resources that we might have.

2019-07-04 15:50:47 UTC  

it would be such a drain to make every one capable of being one thing one day and another thing the next that you will never be able to afford it

2019-07-04 15:51:15 UTC  

I'm sure that the feudalists would say the same of the gig economy.

2019-07-04 15:51:27 UTC  

the scale of teh resources, like you said is based partcially on the use of those resources is finite. And teh ability to handle these resources is finite as well

2019-07-04 15:51:45 UTC  

But they grow, do they not?

2019-07-04 15:51:53 UTC  

the resources were there during the feudal times they just dint know how to acces it