Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 16:18:08 UTC  

'conform or die' is inescapable as far as you're concerned.

2019-07-04 16:18:22 UTC  

Therefore it's meaningless.

2019-07-04 16:18:25 UTC  

well, you have to eat or you die

2019-07-04 16:18:29 UTC  

so yeah conform

2019-07-04 16:18:32 UTC  

or die

2019-07-04 16:18:40 UTC  

It matters what we conform to.

2019-07-04 16:18:56 UTC  

yoour communsim doesnt gives ppl the choice

2019-07-04 16:19:52 UTC  

There is no choice. Either fight for and with those who want to conform to less things and ruthlessly engineer the world in which we live to mutual ends, or be endlessly cucked and betrayed.

2019-07-04 16:20:26 UTC  

Accept the defeatism regarding defeatisms or live a fantasy made into a fleeting reality.

2019-07-04 16:21:01 UTC  

Really simple.

2019-07-04 16:21:06 UTC  

>to stop being cukcked we need to cuck ourself

2019-07-04 16:21:19 UTC  

But then it's not being cucked, *is it*?

2019-07-04 16:21:28 UTC  

it is

2019-07-04 16:22:47 UTC  

The fool who watches their world get beaten into shape in the name of some god by those who pretend to guarantee them some limited kind of livelihood which the fool thinks that they'll fit into...

2019-07-04 16:23:07 UTC  

...is similar to the person who wants to actively change the world to their ends, mutual ends?

2019-07-04 16:23:27 UTC  

Without any gods to serve?

2019-07-04 16:23:35 UTC  

Only provisional big Others?

2019-07-04 16:23:45 UTC  

Themselves subject to conscious change by us?

2019-07-04 16:24:38 UTC  

The 'freedom' that you talk about doesn't exist.

2019-07-04 16:25:45 UTC  

Deal with frozen absolutes, feel the cold.

2019-07-04 16:26:14 UTC  

The issue is that I know you're full of hot air regarding your very specific plan for the world.

2019-07-04 16:26:26 UTC  

You take no issue with being 'cucked'.

2019-07-04 16:26:47 UTC  

You just want it to be in the name of your own chosen god, at least for a very long time.

2019-07-04 16:27:25 UTC  

This god decides what's possible. This alienated idea of yourself, of subjects, of the social order - it is the arbiter of what's good, what's clean, what's damaging as far as you care.

2019-07-04 16:28:47 UTC  

Why bother chasing after a given order if it's not gonna lead to freedom?

2019-07-04 16:29:41 UTC  

It's clearly not the best solution for all if you can't provide for as much as possible.

2019-07-04 16:30:02 UTC  

You know, if you have to determine what's best for one to want based on something that's proposed as forever being alien to us.

2019-07-04 16:30:06 UTC  

Out of our reach.

2019-07-04 16:34:17 UTC  

Take your order to its highest conclusions and it will change and its previous form will die.

2019-07-04 16:35:29 UTC  

There's always a new challenge.

2019-07-04 16:36:07 UTC  

Every order crumbles before the void of the undifferentiated and unknown.

2019-07-04 16:36:49 UTC  

The arms of this monster from beyond the horizons of what we know sweep inside those horizons, and regularly - with every question that we ask ourselves and every move that we make.

2019-07-04 16:37:35 UTC  

We must capture the monster and enslave it, ready to face a new one.

2019-07-04 16:38:08 UTC  

All gods must be thrown onto the fire!

2019-07-04 16:38:58 UTC  

Nature, Jehovah, 'Humanity' (as an abstract ghostly entity;read Stirner), 'the will of the collective', *capital*.

2019-07-04 16:39:32 UTC  

There's always a degree to which one is cucked, but it is not a fixed degree.

2019-07-04 16:39:50 UTC  

again with teh destruxction

2019-07-04 16:40:10 UTC  

you arent doing any thing you keep saying we

2019-07-04 16:40:12 UTC  

We aim to be the destroyers of identity, of ourselves as fixed beings.

2019-07-04 16:40:43 UTC  

you are alwas a fixed being

2019-07-04 16:40:53 UTC  

you just exchange gods