Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-04 16:40:12 UTC  

We aim to be the destroyers of identity, of ourselves as fixed beings.

2019-07-04 16:40:43 UTC  

you are alwas a fixed being

2019-07-04 16:40:53 UTC  

you just exchange gods

2019-07-04 16:40:55 UTC  

Nope, I just changed. I'm thinking a different thought.

2019-07-04 16:41:03 UTC  

I construct gods.

2019-07-04 16:41:06 UTC  

I tear them down.

2019-07-04 16:41:10 UTC  

I build new ones.

2019-07-04 16:41:21 UTC  

seems very unproductive

2019-07-04 16:41:35 UTC  

...only to a person who encourages subservience to a single god, maybe any old god, but a single god.

2019-07-04 16:42:24 UTC  

but yor god is the collective and ist will wheer ever yhis is commiuning from

2019-07-04 16:42:50 UTC  

The god is the collective that wants to change itself.

2019-07-04 16:43:10 UTC  

It is identified with us as we actually are to the greatest extent that we can know ourselves at a given time.

2019-07-04 16:44:13 UTC  

Where others do not care, this ghostly 'collective' does not intrude.

2019-07-04 16:44:55 UTC  

Where they do care, the ghost (used to represent the other participants in the social world) wants to talk and work towards a mutual solution rather than enforce something for any length of time beyond an acceptable interim period.

2019-07-04 16:46:14 UTC  

This ghost kills itself and rises again into a new, revitalised form.

2019-07-04 16:46:25 UTC  

And then it dies again at the commands of everyone.

2019-07-04 16:47:47 UTC  

Or at least as many as possible if there is still a lingering incompetence with regards to coming to mutual solutions in all cases.

2019-07-04 16:49:37 UTC  

So ppl kills other ppls gods

2019-07-04 16:50:00 UTC  

again, your view is oppsressive destructive and unproductive

2019-07-04 17:22:03 UTC  

We kill gods ourselves, we advise others on which gods to kill and build.

2019-07-04 17:22:16 UTC  

Also >killing gods is oppressive if it's others' gods

2019-07-04 17:22:27 UTC  

Smells of idpol.

2019-07-04 17:23:42 UTC  

Oppressive to those who want to keep their gods for no reason. Destructive to those who want to cling onto their ways of life because they've resigned themselves to a certain way of life.

2019-07-04 17:24:04 UTC  

*And unproductive only to those who judge 'on behalf of' their gods.*

2019-07-04 17:27:16 UTC  

If you insist on actively obstructing everyone else for the sake of propping up an order which will always leech off you despite everything you tell yourself as an ordained priest for that order, then yes, since we cannot resolve any dispute with you, you will have to go. You would be representative of a vestige of bourgeois politics.

2019-07-04 19:48:36 UTC  

"We"

2019-07-04 19:48:44 UTC  

So your god is the god then huh

2019-07-04 19:48:48 UTC  

That ego

2019-07-04 19:49:03 UTC  

Just as you are communism

2019-07-05 08:51:26 UTC  

**Like I said, we choose our gods consciously, weaponise them and then rip them apart consciously.**

2019-07-05 08:52:30 UTC  

It's amazing that you talk about (an unsubstantiated, weakly-founded) 'ego' as if I'm really much more pathetic than that. I mean, you're telling me that I overestimate how representative I am of Communists.

2019-07-05 08:53:31 UTC  

And yet here you are, saying 'not true Communism' to me, thinking that you've found the light of revising Communism to fit your defeatist principles of never quite reaching 'freedom' (which is really a Trojan horse argument that you're using to justify the order that you so crave).

2019-07-05 08:54:56 UTC  

Why, yes, I am pathetic. I am but an individual, but even a cadre of a few individuals can do shit if they amass the resources and they have a strong political programme.

2019-07-05 08:55:18 UTC  

The Bolsheviks were a minority within Russia, and Lenin was himself a minority within the Bolsheviks.

2019-07-05 08:56:26 UTC  

Even one of his lovers said that he went mad after reading Hegel and coming back with the April Theses. And yet look at what Lenin managed to do, regardless of whether or not you agree with his politics. The Leninist line became *the dominant line* in the Bolsheviks - the one which held the most power over the party and got implemented in the RSFSR in the days before the USSR was created.

2019-07-05 08:58:12 UTC  

I am not comparable to Lenin. Indeed, I do not do enough for Communism. I have plenty of my own battles to face, and indeed I am not making them any easier.

2019-07-05 08:58:47 UTC  

*You, meanwhile, have positioned yourself as someone who 'merely criticises', 'exposes holes' and does all that in your rhetoric.*

2019-07-05 08:59:35 UTC  

You are the one who's 'woke' to things like racialism and biological determinism, and you have the key to what Communism really is too, you say.

2019-07-05 09:00:56 UTC  

While I spend ages trying to construct walls of text, you are the one priest who doesn't need to read all that and can supposedly BTFO all of that in a few sentences. You command the same of me, but I refuse, so of course I must be merely a mentally-ill butthurt Jewish imp.

2019-07-05 09:02:34 UTC  

**'That ego', he says, as if he isn't just sitting and ignoring much of what I'm saying for few reasons besides his laziness and his confidence in his defeatist worldview.**

2019-07-05 09:05:00 UTC  

***For him, a sheer iconoclasm constitutes nothing more than proclaiming that people are shackled to a force which they can never control while he posits that he knows this and wants to work within the boundaries of that force rather than attack it.***