Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-06 18:01:29 UTC  

You can convince people that your (exclusive) struggle is worth backing and joining, but you can't get any use out of those whose struggles will always come into conflict with yours at a particular moment. Integrating them for the sake of that integration is not in your consciously-held interest, and it is the same with *anyone* who conceives of their struggle as being necessarily exclusive.

2019-07-06 18:02:26 UTC  

You'll never get much use out of those who wish to *destroy* the present biological structures which we use now, for example. Or those who wish to see that class becomes a thing of previous history. You could tactically align with them, but they will always be different to you if you keep your present cause and continue with that struggle.

2019-07-06 18:03:20 UTC  

**What are you gonna do with your enemies if they're armed to the fucking teeth?**

2019-07-06 18:04:42 UTC  

What are you going to do with the likes of George Soros, the bourgeois philanthropist?

2019-07-06 18:06:05 UTC  

And all the Antifa kids who just won't listen to your wisdom? All the *Jews*, all the fucking financier rats?

2019-07-06 18:06:54 UTC  

__***You have no choice but to slaughter most if not all of them. They will NEVER be completely on your side.***__

2019-07-06 18:08:07 UTC  

***It follows from all of this that the link that you've made between Communism, or at least what I am putting forward regarding it, and 'Fascism', is a link that could be made between your 'Communism' and actual third-positionist movements, or between any two movements on the political landscape today which do not have a very large hegemony.***

2019-07-06 18:09:18 UTC  

__***For your politics to be any different using this metric, you would in fact have to be A BOURGEOIS LIBERAL, which you are clearly not!***__

2019-07-06 18:10:27 UTC  

So how's it going, Sargon? Why not just endorse horseshoe theory for the sake of rhetoric while continuing to also promote reactionary ideas on the basis that they're good for a kind of grown-up liberalism?

2019-07-06 18:15:58 UTC  

You really are just a souped-up Carl at this point: pretending to be a Communist (similarly to how Sargon says he's left-wing) and yet spouting very reactionary ideas and political solutions to what we face while also calling Communists 'Fascists'.

2019-07-06 19:25:47 UTC  

" Regarding this, Communism seeks to remove this false consciousness and contextualise struggles as being part of a larger, universal struggle." and you get to decide what is which in your mind, whilst not being sibjected to this yoursefl

2019-07-06 19:26:08 UTC  

>in your mind

2019-07-06 19:26:14 UTC  

jup

2019-07-06 19:26:19 UTC  

and its you who dodges

2019-07-06 19:26:28 UTC  

Wow, it's almost as if I can say things that others can agree with...!

2019-07-06 19:27:07 UTC  

What do I dodge?

2019-07-06 19:27:15 UTC  

This biased assumtion btw "How is this equivalent to genocides and crap like that?"

2019-07-06 19:27:22 UTC  

facism is notgenocide

2019-07-06 19:28:05 UTC  

Fascism requires genocides to exist today otherwise it won't be able to establish itself.

2019-07-06 19:28:20 UTC  

You know, what with huge financiers fighting against it.

2019-07-06 19:28:55 UTC  

You brought up the 'fascism' WP page, did you not?

2019-07-06 19:28:59 UTC  

You even confirm the stage of fasism "With Communism, this kind of ultra-authoritarian politics can only ever be temporary;"

2019-07-06 19:29:09 UTC  

so you are a facist

2019-07-06 19:29:24 UTC  

And an anarchist is not a fascist, by that reasoning?

2019-07-06 19:29:31 UTC  

dodge

2019-07-06 19:29:46 UTC  

facism does not require genocide

2019-07-06 19:29:56 UTC  

Not a dodge. I'm saying that almost all politics, by your qualifications, is fascist.

2019-07-06 19:30:05 UTC  

All politics has to involve hegemony *today*.

2019-07-06 19:30:08 UTC  

it isnt sunomuness with teh german nazi soci party despite your deluded bias

2019-07-06 19:30:22 UTC  

I know it isn't, because 'fascism' is a broad term.

2019-07-06 19:30:25 UTC  

so all politics are facist

2019-07-06 19:30:42 UTC  

If so, then fascism is *meaningless* as a term.

2019-07-06 19:30:47 UTC  

you change the measuring tape 😄 wwhich explainians your ego

2019-07-06 19:30:59 UTC  

no it isnt meaing less

2019-07-06 19:31:02 UTC  

No, I'm using *your* argumentation again, Sargon.

2019-07-06 19:31:04 UTC  

you just dont know the meaing

2019-07-06 19:31:12 UTC  

you make your own from your believes

2019-07-06 19:31:16 UTC  

You're the one saying that 'fascism' is where 'people stomp on others and their gods'.

2019-07-06 19:31:24 UTC  

your false believes that in your own believes need to be destroyed 😄

2019-07-06 19:31:58 UTC  

See, I didn't even say that what I believe in has to be followed indefinitely, did I?

2019-07-06 19:32:10 UTC  

So that's a straw man.