Message from @Garbage

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2019-07-08 09:38:24 UTC  

Reuse the same definitions for which you can't provide any proof? Bring up a dictionary entry from a non-specialist or otherwise irrelevant website which magically 'proves' that you're using the terminology right?

2019-07-08 09:39:22 UTC  

...all while dodging the actual content of what I'm trying to say and the demarcations which I made between given things to which I have assigned terms, *which you still haven't argued against* given that you've stuck to using frozen absolutes which are either trivial or can never exist in place of the dynamic and history-dependent concepts that I've used?

2019-07-08 12:44:55 UTC  

Implying. and no facism is not kill the jews. You are so fucking delusional

2019-07-08 12:50:31 UTC  

Your ego is massive, you are autoritarian and oppressive. you are a facist.

2019-07-09 07:49:30 UTC  

Fascism = kill white people

2019-07-09 07:49:34 UTC  

Prove me wrong

2019-07-09 08:20:06 UTC  

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Implying. and no facism is not kill the jews. You are so fucking delusional
```

2019-07-09 08:21:18 UTC  

I wasn't just talking about Jews. Saying 'implying' means nothing on its own, by the way. Notice how you never make any effort to explain your own politics.

2019-07-09 08:22:32 UTC  

My point is very simple: ***If you can ally with people who might, in line with their identities, always be opposed to your politics, then why can't I or anyone else in the same tradition as me do that too?***

2019-07-09 08:24:24 UTC  

If I'm a 'fascist' and 'fascism' does not require genocide, then you'd be wrong to say that my politics requires genocide.

2019-07-09 08:26:43 UTC  

But this is besides the point. You were the first to bring up the topic of 'genocide' when I was talking about going beyond biology because you think that my kind of politics can only be achieved with a homogeneous master race.

2019-07-09 08:26:47 UTC  

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2019-07-09 08:28:46 UTC  

It's this straw man of 'ppl cant be dffierent (in what u think communsim is)', which is not what I've argued. It's what *you* argued this entire time!

2019-07-09 08:28:53 UTC  

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2019-07-09 08:31:07 UTC  

**If people have 'different traits' (which is what *you* said) and this causes them to inherently act in a certain way (which *you* implied by defending biological determinism)**, then conflict resolution cannot be established on grounds of reasoning and mutual solutions can never be found. People would always be pursuing a subset of a given set of goals and **there would be no option but to kill other people if tactical alliances cannot be made** since people would get in the way of each other if they all demanded more than what resources could allow for.

2019-07-09 08:34:24 UTC  

This follows from your words, not mine.

2019-07-09 08:38:26 UTC  

Are people different? Yes! I have never argued otherwise. That doesn't mean that they cannot relate their own personal struggles to a universal struggle, even if it is simply universal at a present moment.

2019-07-09 08:39:29 UTC  

Notice how you dodged this:

2019-07-09 08:39:32 UTC  

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2019-07-09 08:41:57 UTC  

Your only defence was to hide behind words which we simply were not using in the same way and claim that I meant something that I didn't because I was supposedly using your interpretations of those words. That was the whole 'freedom' and 'submission' shitfest. When I say that there *can only be* such authoritarianism in an early stage of Communist revolution - as I've explained before - I mean that Communism would not yet be powerful enough to establish a ground upon which mutual conflict resolution can take place and would therefore most likely need to fight violently. Notice how you still dodged the points about this conflict resolution.

2019-07-09 08:42:19 UTC  

```Your ego is massive, you are autoritarian and oppressive. you are a facist.
```

2019-07-09 08:45:06 UTC  

You mean to say that my ego is unwarranted rather than large, since you position yourself to be among *The Based*. You pretend that you're a fusion between Diogenes and Hitler: you say you certainly know what others are thinking; you have all the possible nuances to hand *apart from when it doesn't benefit your argumentation*.

2019-07-09 08:47:32 UTC  

You imagine yourself as being one of Those before Whom others crumble and bend. You are the Keeper of Holy Terminologies and Definitions in your mind.

2019-07-09 08:48:45 UTC  

So much so that *your own politics* doesn't need to have so much of a focus as as those of others must, and those others should just be more concise so that you can drag your Based Interpretations out of what they say and the matter will be swiftly dealt with!

2019-07-09 08:51:11 UTC  

**Using your definitions of words, of course, there are many things that we agree on. The impossibility of 'freedom', the universality of 'authoritarian'-ism, the 'finitude' of the present. - we agree on all of those mentioned things.**

2019-07-09 08:52:20 UTC  

Not to say that we've agreed in other such cases of you bolting your own definitions to what I've said even after I've clarified my use of the terms.

2019-07-09 08:55:10 UTC  

I know that you are referring to static, frozen and highly abstract ideas which are ultimately superficial, but I am not doing the same thing that you are. I explain why your definitions are not just missing the point of what I'm saying but are in fact putting you in the same predicament that I'm supposedly in.

2019-07-09 08:56:38 UTC  

When I say that your 'fascism' is universal in bourgeois politics, I make a distinction between that and whatever the Wikipedia article said about Fascism, and also third-positionist politics in general.

2019-07-09 08:57:38 UTC  

**So when you say 'you're admitting I'm right', I say 'no shit Sherlock, but this doesn't mean what you think it does - it's a big own goal for you too, since you can't justify how you're also not a 'fascist'!'**

2019-07-09 09:01:34 UTC  

You still haven't come up with even a tentative answer to this.

2019-07-09 11:47:06 UTC  

@Garbage "If I'm a 'fascist' and 'fascism' does not require genocide, then you'd be wrong to say that my politics requires genocide." ***i never said this**

2019-07-09 11:47:41 UTC  

You keep making up this shit, and now you are accusing me of making strawmen lol

2019-07-09 11:47:55 UTC  

You are such a jew

2019-07-09 12:31:49 UTC  

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2019-07-09 12:32:01 UTC  

*nice try*

2019-07-09 12:32:53 UTC  

You're such an American. You lack political literacy and you have no recollection of what you even said.

2019-07-09 12:34:31 UTC  

inb4 'thats not what i meant do you even nuance bro'

2019-07-09 14:59:28 UTC  

Nuance recalling what you said. You said that this evolution is ever constant there is no stability , so that stage of facism you are talking about so much in which your dick gets hard is ever lasting as it is constant revolution and progression as you described

2019-07-10 07:25:18 UTC  

>there is no stability

2019-07-10 07:25:41 UTC  

>so that stage of facism you are talking about so much in which your dick gets hard is ever lasting as it is constant revolution and progression as you described

2019-07-10 07:26:03 UTC  

Again, huge amnesia on your part.