Can you explain to me the circle thing?

>literally horseshoe theory

yikes

But we're talking about the economic spectrum and I just realized what I said doesn't apply

like do you believe in the totalitarian category?

Everything has the potential to work in theory. It just doesn't because of basic human nature.

I'm mainly on the left because it appeals to my personal sensibilities.

https://theredphoenixapl.org/2009/09/10/the-myth-of-totalitarianism/

why do you think that socialism isn't compatible with human nature?

>human nature

>horseshoe theory

human nature is a creation

we *are* human nature

human nature is when an imperialist bleed 😛

Socialism is as compatible as any other economic/governmental system

Somewhat but not as much as staunch advocates would believe

thats the thing tho

socialism is the only compatible because it doesn't kill innocents and doesn't steal your labour

human nature isn't some fixed monolith

You're right. I'm speaking in generalities.

but you said socialism doesn't work because it isnt compatible with human nature

If I ever state anything to be an absolute then that's a mistake on my part.

if human nature is malleable, we can change it. if we can change it to fit a more just society, we should

Human nature is malleable, sure but it's not a reed in the wind.

certainly

Some aspects are incredibly difficult to fight because they're on an instinctual level.

we still should

people have bad conditions->people want revolution->people have better conditions in socialism

justice > instinct

appeal to nature is ultimately a fallacy, especially when it concerns humans

People don't necessarily have better conditions in socialist societies.

Humans have a tendency to pervert and corrupt.

soviet union underwent a rapid economic growth, cuba rose standards of living, china did as well

Just look at Venezuela.

oh no

I'm not saying that it's socialism by any means

But that's what they're calling it

venezuela is in a capitalist context and it keeps a capitalist economy, with just a few nationalizations

in venezuela the workers don't own the means of production, the state owns the oil

it's XXI century socialism, radical social democracy

Exactly. A perverted system.