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This has been an interesting convo mate, but I apologise I have to go
Good night
Okay thanks.
I'm taking the gf to see wonder woman
should be good
Goodnight
@Mros Why can there be no good without freewill?
Because by doing good you must be consciously rejecting evil. Without the ability to do evil you cannot be good. You would merely be acting.
Do you really have the ability to do evil if you never commit evil sometimes?
Can God create evil?
If not he is not all powerful.
It is outside of his nature to do it. He would not do evil because he is all good.
Is God also conscious of evil?
Yes, and in he works around man's evil in order to do good.
So God would never directly command man to do evil
Are you going to bring up Abraham and Isaac?
I was going to bring up Job
Ah, Job.
Killing his family members in order to prove his loyalty to him
It was actually Satan who did that
If God is all-powerful, and also loving, how can he allow evil to exist
Why not crush it instantly
You've asked this question numerous times and it's been answered numerous times.
There's no need to go around in circles with it.
I've asked it twice and you've avoided the first time
I misunderstood this idea of free will. Thanks for clarifying.
hi chopin
If God crushed evil he would be absolving man of the responsibility for his own actions. Which would be unjust.
Hi
Free will defined as holding consciousness and potentiality of evil but not acting on it, is interesting.
Hmm, this argument isn't convincing in the slightest
@Mros is this idea also Catholic doctrine?
*"It was actually Satan who did that"* So it wasn't entirely man's responsibility
Not sure, I'm still new to it
@Deleted User If I understand it correctly, in theory, man has free will to reject evil created by satan. I am assuming they also need God's help of goodness to do it because of original sin.
Nothing stopping you from reading into theology.
Aquinas is good
I am still no closer to the existence of God. The cosmological argument is not very good.
Ok that's fine.
But why not even look to see if there's anything there?