Message from @Deleted User

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2017-06-07 08:00:41 UTC  

@Mros is this idea also Catholic doctrine?

2017-06-07 08:00:42 UTC  

*"It was actually Satan who did that"* So it wasn't entirely man's responsibility

2017-06-07 08:01:02 UTC  

Not sure, I'm still new to it

2017-06-07 08:03:19 UTC  

@Deleted User If I understand it correctly, in theory, man has free will to reject evil created by satan. I am assuming they also need God's help of goodness to do it because of original sin.

2017-06-07 08:03:52 UTC  

Nothing stopping you from reading into theology.

2017-06-07 08:03:57 UTC  

Aquinas is good

2017-06-07 08:05:12 UTC  

I am still no closer to the existence of God. The cosmological argument is not very good.

2017-06-07 08:05:23 UTC  

Ok that's fine.

2017-06-07 08:05:38 UTC  

But why not even look to see if there's anything there?

2017-06-07 08:05:52 UTC  

Unless you've already read theology in which case, disregard what I said.

2017-06-07 08:06:01 UTC  

I acknowledge the internal consistency now though.

2017-06-07 08:06:34 UTC  

Well, i just had trouble make the rational leap into faith. Seems reckless.

2017-06-07 08:06:45 UTC  

That's a very reasonable belief

2017-06-07 08:07:07 UTC  

Soren Kierkegaard wrote about the relationship between faith and reason in Fear and Trembling.

2017-06-07 08:07:34 UTC  

I can't say too much about it, because I haven't read it yet. But It's coming this saturday.

2017-06-07 08:08:53 UTC  

I think I can look into Thomas and Soren again. It has been several years. I am very busy with materials unfortuately.

2017-06-07 08:10:13 UTC  

Don't worry about it. It's worth looking into if you get the chance.

2017-06-07 08:10:25 UTC  

Christianity has lasted this long, there's gotta be something to it, huh?

2017-06-07 08:10:33 UTC  

No.

2017-06-07 08:11:32 UTC  

What I'm trying to say is that it's worth looking into.

2017-06-07 08:11:52 UTC  

Longevity is not always proof of validity

2017-06-07 08:12:20 UTC  

Not saying that it's proof of truth, but it shouldn't be overlooked or dismissed without at least a little study.

2017-06-07 08:12:36 UTC  

Oh I see, yes, it is relevant to learn about.

2017-06-07 08:13:24 UTC  

Thanks for the chat.

2017-06-07 08:13:31 UTC  

No problem. Any time.

2017-06-07 08:13:58 UTC  

I hope existentialism does not hurt you too much.

2017-06-07 08:14:27 UTC  

One last thing then I'll let you on your way

2017-06-07 08:14:33 UTC  

Ok

2017-06-07 08:14:43 UTC  

I take your argument that “God crushed evil he would be absolving man of the responsibility for his own actions”

2017-06-07 08:15:04 UTC  

Why would God not crush evil before it reached that point? Before mankind was led astray and disobeyed God?

2017-06-07 08:20:33 UTC  

God created man with free will. The ability to respect God's judgement or reject it and fend for himself. This choice was represented by the tree of knowledge of good and evil. To allow man this choice is allowing him the choice between good and evil. It is impossible to love or respect God without the ability to act against him. Crushing the ability to do evil, and thus man's ability to choose, would also be crushing man's ability to act in a way that is in line with God's will, because such a thing would require the concsious decision to do so.

2017-06-07 08:21:06 UTC  

I apologize in advance if It was poorly worded, it's passed 1 am.

2017-06-07 08:21:18 UTC  

Not at all. You frame your points well though, I respect that

2017-06-07 08:21:27 UTC  

And as promised that's the last question I have

2017-06-07 08:21:32 UTC  

Goodnight, thanks for the chat

2017-06-07 08:21:41 UTC  

Same to you. Have a good one.

2017-06-07 14:27:24 UTC  

@Mros so I assume you believe communism is compatible with Christianity? what denom are you?

2017-06-07 14:45:31 UTC  

@Deleted User I suppose it's possible in theory, but I have yet to see one that hasn't accepted heresies or stop being a communist later.

2017-06-07 14:46:23 UTC  

I'm going to become a catholic

2017-06-07 14:46:28 UTC  

Christianity as a matter of principle as well is, I think, opposed to ideaologies that proclaim state atheism

2017-06-07 14:46:39 UTC  

And advocate mass killings