Message from @Mros
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I've asked it twice and you've avoided the first time
I misunderstood this idea of free will. Thanks for clarifying.
hi chopin
If God crushed evil he would be absolving man of the responsibility for his own actions. Which would be unjust.
Hi
Free will defined as holding consciousness and potentiality of evil but not acting on it, is interesting.
Hmm, this argument isn't convincing in the slightest
@Mros is this idea also Catholic doctrine?
*"It was actually Satan who did that"* So it wasn't entirely man's responsibility
Not sure, I'm still new to it
@Deleted User If I understand it correctly, in theory, man has free will to reject evil created by satan. I am assuming they also need God's help of goodness to do it because of original sin.
Nothing stopping you from reading into theology.
Aquinas is good
I am still no closer to the existence of God. The cosmological argument is not very good.
Ok that's fine.
But why not even look to see if there's anything there?
Unless you've already read theology in which case, disregard what I said.
I acknowledge the internal consistency now though.
Well, i just had trouble make the rational leap into faith. Seems reckless.
That's a very reasonable belief
I can't say too much about it, because I haven't read it yet. But It's coming this saturday.
I think I can look into Thomas and Soren again. It has been several years. I am very busy with materials unfortuately.
Don't worry about it. It's worth looking into if you get the chance.
Christianity has lasted this long, there's gotta be something to it, huh?
No.
What I'm trying to say is that it's worth looking into.
Longevity is not always proof of validity
Not saying that it's proof of truth, but it shouldn't be overlooked or dismissed without at least a little study.
Oh I see, yes, it is relevant to learn about.
Thanks for the chat.
No problem. Any time.
I hope existentialism does not hurt you too much.
One last thing then I'll let you on your way
Ok
I take your argument that “God crushed evil he would be absolving man of the responsibility for his own actions”
Why would God not crush evil before it reached that point? Before mankind was led astray and disobeyed God?
God created man with free will. The ability to respect God's judgement or reject it and fend for himself. This choice was represented by the tree of knowledge of good and evil. To allow man this choice is allowing him the choice between good and evil. It is impossible to love or respect God without the ability to act against him. Crushing the ability to do evil, and thus man's ability to choose, would also be crushing man's ability to act in a way that is in line with God's will, because such a thing would require the concsious decision to do so.
I apologize in advance if It was poorly worded, it's passed 1 am.
Not at all. You frame your points well though, I respect that
And as promised that's the last question I have