Message from @swampy_maroon

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2017-06-07 15:13:44 UTC  

We have the nicene creed

2017-06-07 15:14:02 UTC  

also, who dictates what Books belong in the Bible?

2017-06-07 15:14:15 UTC  

And we have the Westminister confession of faith

2017-06-07 15:14:34 UTC  

Well the early councils decided that didn't they man

2017-06-07 15:14:51 UTC  

We have used what was used since then haven't we

2017-06-07 15:14:56 UTC  

For almost 2000 years

2017-06-07 15:15:29 UTC  

>Well the early councils decided that didn't they man
what did he mean by this

2017-06-07 15:15:41 UTC  

Ok

2017-06-07 15:16:03 UTC  

The bible in its current 66 books form came to be over many years very early on in the church bro

2017-06-07 15:16:19 UTC  

I mean unless you have some greater insight into the matter

2017-06-07 15:16:25 UTC  

I'd love to hear

2017-06-07 15:17:24 UTC  

But who allowed that?

2017-06-07 15:18:07 UTC  

You're asking a pretty broad question that has been covered at lengths in varous books by people way more knowledgable of the subject than you or me man

2017-06-07 15:18:22 UTC  

I'm curious, what about yourself and your background man

2017-06-07 15:18:30 UTC  

You said you're orthodox

2017-06-07 15:19:34 UTC  

Actually no, wasn't it Eccumenial Councils?

2017-06-07 15:19:53 UTC  

and idk what you want from me, I'm Orthodox, yeah

2017-06-07 15:21:32 UTC  

ok

2017-06-07 15:22:13 UTC  

Well um, actually after having done some reading, i don't really know you can point to a specific point in history where suddenly bam we had the new testament. It was a historical process or development.

2017-06-07 15:23:01 UTC  

actually it took a couple of hundred years to get Revelations in

2017-06-07 15:23:12 UTC  

But for the really councils in use by the eastern church it was the septuagint

2017-06-07 15:23:20 UTC  

because greek was still relatively common

2017-06-07 15:24:03 UTC  

what does a translation have to do with anything?

2017-06-07 15:24:11 UTC  

ok

2017-06-07 15:24:34 UTC  

So, because most of the world at the point in history around the mediteranean was greek speaking

2017-06-07 15:24:53 UTC  

The Septuagint was the greek translation of the old testament (including the Torah)

2017-06-07 15:25:05 UTC  

This included several deutro-canonical books

2017-06-07 15:25:13 UTC  

Like Maccabees and Esdras

2017-06-07 15:25:31 UTC  

The New Testament likewise was composed almost entirely in greek

2017-06-07 15:25:50 UTC  

The only book that wasn't originally hebrew was daniel which was written in Aramaic

2017-06-07 15:26:26 UTC  

This matters because since the early church still was largely greek speaking, the canon already included the Old testament (ie the Septuagint)

2017-06-07 15:26:40 UTC  

With the various letters and books of the new Testament being really, really widespread

2017-06-07 15:26:54 UTC  

the letters being the Epistle I assume

2017-06-07 15:27:04 UTC  

As in, we literally have the best textual evidence for it because theres just so many damn copies and manuscripts

2017-06-07 15:27:12 UTC  

yes, correct

2017-06-07 15:28:03 UTC  

The use of the current canon as it currently stands was pretty concrete pretty early on, because it is referenced by different authors

2017-06-07 15:28:18 UTC  

Along with manuscripts like Codex Vaticanus and Alexandrianus

2017-06-07 15:28:28 UTC  

So, nah bro. No council really

2017-06-07 15:28:50 UTC  

Just the Holy Spirit at work orchestrating the effort of God's holy scripture coming together

2017-06-07 15:30:15 UTC  

I'm going to research myself

2017-06-07 15:30:23 UTC  

No worries man