Message from @swampy_maroon

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2017-06-07 15:36:12 UTC  

But it determines the interperation of it

2017-06-07 15:36:43 UTC  

because misinterperations are easy, especially in something like an English translation *especially* if it's KJV

2017-06-07 15:37:00 UTC  

But some people rely too heavily upon what their church or denomination has said to believe about some passages in scripture

2017-06-07 15:37:07 UTC  

I especially think you're correct

2017-06-07 15:37:11 UTC  

I'm not a fan of the KJV

2017-06-07 15:37:16 UTC  

Relying on the Church is completely normal

2017-06-07 15:37:47 UTC  

What's you vs a clergy? Clergy aren't infallible but are most likely more correct than an normal individual

2017-06-07 15:37:56 UTC  

The KJV was politcal through and through

2017-06-07 15:38:27 UTC  

You are correct to a point. You should be able to trust your church elders and deacons and wiser and more mature people in their faiths

2017-06-07 15:38:37 UTC  

But that doesn't mean you shouldnt explore the bible for yourself

2017-06-07 15:39:01 UTC  

The KJV was based on manuscript basis that is no longer as authorative

2017-06-07 15:39:16 UTC  

You should, but preferably ask clergy on interperation or get a Study Bible

2017-06-07 15:39:30 UTC  

And its translation of the words into Bishop as opposed to Overseer

2017-06-07 15:39:33 UTC  

Which is more literal

2017-06-07 15:39:37 UTC  

Yes, absolutely

2017-06-07 15:39:44 UTC  

Which translation do you use btw?

2017-06-07 15:40:13 UTC  

...NKJV. But I swears I only listen to commentary as according to my Study Bible

2017-06-07 15:40:23 UTC  

I still prefer ESV

2017-06-07 15:40:26 UTC  

Yeah

2017-06-07 15:40:29 UTC  

I use the ESV

2017-06-07 15:40:36 UTC  

Awesome translation

2017-06-07 15:42:14 UTC  

But I am still unanswered, how does the Reformed determine infallibility of an interperation of Scripture?

2017-06-07 15:43:26 UTC  

"The general rule of interpreting Scripture is this: the literal sense of every text is to be taken, if it be not contrary to some other texts: but in that case the obscure text is to be interpreted by those which speak more plainly. Wesley, Letters, 3:129; 5:328."

2017-06-07 15:44:00 UTC  

In some ways though, a literal translation is not prefereable, like for instance where poetical or allegorical language is used

2017-06-07 15:44:29 UTC  

But for the most part, most if not the vast majority of passages of scriputre are pretty obviously meant to be taken literally

2017-06-07 15:45:07 UTC  

this is just method, who declares it?

2017-06-07 15:46:23 UTC  

Because I'm a protestant I will be honest, its up to the church and their theolgical statements.

2017-06-07 15:46:34 UTC  

which church?

2017-06-07 15:46:36 UTC  

However, I think we can differ on secondary and tertiary matters

2017-06-07 15:46:50 UTC  

I thought you said you were reformed when I asked if you're protestant

2017-06-07 15:47:03 UTC  

However, when it comes to primary matters, such as the ressurection, the gospel and whatnot those are non-negotiable

2017-06-07 15:47:08 UTC  

I am protestant bro

2017-06-07 15:47:24 UTC  

The reformed camp is from the protestant tradition

2017-06-07 15:48:01 UTC  

>Because I'm a protestant I will be honest, its up to the church and their theolgical statements.
literally moral relativism

2017-06-07 15:48:14 UTC  

Well not exactly man

2017-06-07 15:48:39 UTC  

The Bible stands as the single authorative, infallible inerrant piece of scripture

2017-06-07 15:48:50 UTC  

Interepretion thereof is not divine

2017-06-07 15:49:19 UTC  

It's relativist if interperation cannot be infallible

2017-06-07 15:49:24 UTC  

The Bible as it stands, is the anchor and the foundation, along with the Holy Spirit man

2017-06-07 15:49:32 UTC  

Well, not really

2017-06-07 15:49:44 UTC  

I think that mis characterises quite of lot of Christianity man