Message from @kropotkin クロポトキン

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2017-06-13 23:31:42 UTC  

I'm an anarcho syndicalist and Kropotkin I'm assuming is an anarcho communist

2017-06-13 23:32:03 UTC  

Anarcho-Capitalism is stupid

2017-06-13 23:32:09 UTC  

^^

2017-06-13 23:32:10 UTC  

yes

2017-06-13 23:32:14 UTC  

And anarcho Syndicalism is so close to anarcho communism that you might as well group them together so you're really just debating left wing anarchists

2017-06-13 23:32:16 UTC  

Let's debate Anarchy. Do you really think Anarchy would work?

2017-06-13 23:32:22 UTC  

MNever

2017-06-13 23:32:26 UTC  

capitalism requires a state to function

2017-06-13 23:32:31 UTC  

Humans tend towards selfishness

2017-06-13 23:32:37 UTC  

Well yes people don't need to have a gun pointed in their face to do the right thing

2017-06-13 23:32:51 UTC  

Some dp

2017-06-13 23:32:51 UTC  

humans tend toward self-interest

2017-06-13 23:32:52 UTC  

Most people do

2017-06-13 23:32:54 UTC  

And if worse came to worse the individual could point a gun at another individual

2017-06-13 23:32:56 UTC  

yes

2017-06-13 23:33:00 UTC  

Read mutual aid by Kropotkin

2017-06-13 23:33:06 UTC  

but this can be managed in collective ways

2017-06-13 23:33:09 UTC  

All life tends towards community and selflessness

2017-06-13 23:33:13 UTC  

So take advantage of it to better society

2017-06-13 23:33:20 UTC  

It's called capitalism

2017-06-13 23:33:22 UTC  

that's the idea of socialism

2017-06-13 23:33:31 UTC  

capitalism rewards the greedy

2017-06-13 23:33:33 UTC  

When individuals start pointing weapons one will take conquer and lead

2017-06-13 23:33:34 UTC  

Socialism is literally the art of pointing a gun at someone's head

2017-06-13 23:33:44 UTC  

CNT FAI

2017-06-13 23:33:50 UTC  

you've been debunked 😎

2017-06-13 23:34:01 UTC  

Capitalism rewards ingenuity

2017-06-13 23:34:03 UTC  

I can literally debunk half your arguments with the CNT FAI tho so...

2017-06-13 23:34:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/324330633319022603/image.png

2017-06-13 23:34:11 UTC  

Not really

2017-06-13 23:34:15 UTC  

dafuq how is worker self-management like pointing a gun at your head?

2017-06-13 23:34:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/324330671596240896/image.png

2017-06-13 23:34:19 UTC  

No it doesnt

2017-06-13 23:34:23 UTC  

Basically, in this proposed syndicate, if I wanted to have my own company, and run it my way because it's my private business and property, I can't do that otherwise the government will put me in jail, dead or alive.

2017-06-13 23:34:31 UTC  

CNT was that the little anarcho state during the Spanish civil war?

2017-06-13 23:34:31 UTC  

No

2017-06-13 23:34:33 UTC  

That encourages people to get better educations

2017-06-13 23:34:33 UTC  

Omg

2017-06-13 23:34:46 UTC  

If you want to own a business no one will work for you because they prefer a democratic workplace

2017-06-13 23:34:46 UTC  

Most people move past minimum wage jobs

2017-06-13 23:34:57 UTC  

If you want to form a business you can ask a bunch of guys if they'll run it with you