They are useless today because of the fact that people don't believe in them anymore. People see that the unions got us in the States 8hr work week and other worker compensations, and dont see unions as necessary anymore. Plus, people see them as dangerous. That's why unions are so weak now, but they can still return to their old glory, and history has proven their effectiveness and potential power.

Overall, I see them having a *lot* of potential.

That's why I advocate for them.

also, I was kinda joking about everyone joining a union, I don't believe thats realistic. That was a meme, but still, very trotsky-like, you are correct.

@Builderelf No they didn't many, many jobs still have prople work 12hr+, infact some people in my family do, just with benefits provided to them by the company, not the union.

I'm sorry to hear that. But I still think that having a stronger union to negiotate for the workers could lower the work week.

@Blueberries the government is mafia

@Builderelf Hey, I ain't complaining about it since we get a shit ton of money from it.

Also, welfare capitalism (the idea that the business owners should give you benefits not the unions) was mostly implemented after WW1 when unions were really scary.

treu @RelativeProfit#8030

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god I cant spell

They were a stopgag measure to appease the workers.

The thing is that, unions will probably never get stronger, not in the sense that you would prefer.

@GohanLSSJ2 Who is they?

A man can dream.

@Builderelf Sure, but maybe you shoulden't have too unrealistic dreams.

Eh, I think it's possible. I'm doing my part for sure, I myself founded a socialist club at my school, and I have some good turnouts. I'm even converting some people to Anarchism!

So I don't think it's too idealistic.

Albeit, difficult.

@Builderelf Physically, sure, realistically? Eh.....not really.

Maybe. But a man can try.

@Deleted User it is

Either way, if unions *do* reclaim their old glory, I think it's quite realistic to say that they can organize society properly.

I sure would like to see you try.

But getting to that point is arguebly unrealistic, I could agree.

Anyway, ima go play some fortnite

but earth is full of doublethinkers who don't realize it

its PUBG for the people!

Very well then.

Earth is flat

your brain is flat

My brain is a globe

fellas, fellas! We need a compromise! Let's just say that the earth is a dodechahedron! It's not comepletely flat, and it's not compeletely spherical! Everybody's happy!

Why are there so many commie fags in Gen Z and Millenials

cuz we're woke af

Stfu George

cause the babyboomers brainwashed us

hol up

how'd u know my name?

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