@GohanLSSJ2 retard alert

oi one of you explain the differences between communism communism and anarcho communism

I have no fucking idea what anarcho communism is

Guessing it's primal communism

@GohanLSSJ2 democracy is a meme

@DICK KICKEM 422 Communism says that there needs to be a revolution, then the workers will use a Vangaurd Party (a party run by the workers) and then found a Proletariat Dictatorship. This is meant to protect the workers interests, and create a transitional period where the state culturally prepares the proletariat for Full Communism.

Anaracho-Communism just says that we can enter that Full Communism stage right at the beginning.

Personally, I don't fully agree with either. I'm an Anarcho-Syndicalist.

@Builderelf And what makes you think the unions will solve everything?

even today, unions are such fucking mafias

meh, I dont see it that way

I think they would give a lot of structure to an anarchist society

@Blueberries That, or they are completely useless.

plus, adding direct democracy makes it pretty hard to corrupt a union.

@Builderelf They clearly hardly do anything today.

they protect the union members in the expense of everyone else

but if EVERYONE was a union member (or vitrually everyone)...

le gasp

but anyway

most school teachers are such garbage, and they won't ever be touched by anyone unless they go as far as raping someone

because UNION PROTECTION

@Builderelf Now you are thinking like a trotskyist, because the system dosen't work unless everybody magically agree's to it.

i rather have inefficient people fired than secured by a mafia

They are useless today because of the fact that people don't believe in them anymore. People see that the unions got us in the States 8hr work week and other worker compensations, and dont see unions as necessary anymore. Plus, people see them as dangerous. That's why unions are so weak now, but they can still return to their old glory, and history has proven their effectiveness and potential power.

Overall, I see them having a *lot* of potential.

That's why I advocate for them.

also, I was kinda joking about everyone joining a union, I don't believe thats realistic. That was a meme, but still, very trotsky-like, you are correct.

@Builderelf No they didn't many, many jobs still have prople work 12hr+, infact some people in my family do, just with benefits provided to them by the company, not the union.

I'm sorry to hear that. But I still think that having a stronger union to negiotate for the workers could lower the work week.

@Blueberries the government is mafia

@Builderelf Hey, I ain't complaining about it since we get a shit ton of money from it.

Also, welfare capitalism (the idea that the business owners should give you benefits not the unions) was mostly implemented after WW1 when unions were really scary.

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They were a stopgag measure to appease the workers.

The thing is that, unions will probably never get stronger, not in the sense that you would prefer.

@GohanLSSJ2 Who is they?

A man can dream.

@Builderelf Sure, but maybe you shoulden't have too unrealistic dreams.

Eh, I think it's possible. I'm doing my part for sure, I myself founded a socialist club at my school, and I have some good turnouts. I'm even converting some people to Anarchism!

So I don't think it's too idealistic.