stirner's ideology killed fewer people

lenin got his ideas of the "necessity of the state" from marx.
ergo i love stirner more than i love marx

but bakunin is my guy

you have nothing on bakunin.
he was right about EVERYTHING

[Contemporary's critique on Marx intensifies]

he predicted the absolute despotism and farce of the "red bureaucracy" LONG before the advent of the soviet union

yes you would be killed in the USSR

he predicted it would be ANYTHING but autonomy for the people, and empowering only to the central state

grog the caveman said one day mankind would move really fast, later the car was invented

thats pretty broad

@alines Lenin was shitty all round.

oh fuck off to the international again

bakunin made this prediction while criticizing marx, lenin followed marx, and LO, red bureacracy turn out to be evil

"evil"

okay liberal

liberals are puppets of the bourgeoisie and the state

@alines You should not use such a black and white perception of "good and evil".

It's a pure generalization.

Lenin was a great man

literally my favorite man ever

marx and all his followers deserve to have the world population piss on all their graves for eternity

how do you just completely disregard marx and call yourself even slightly left leaning

bakunin

@Lucas 4313 >Returns the soviet union to capitalism and nearly causes it's collapse due to shitty management, and starvation becomes much more worse than it was during the climax of WW1, as well as most of his policies failing and being retracted

Wew, when you look at it objectively, stalin was 100X better than lenin.

">" who returned the soviet union to capitalism

Gorby?

@Lucas 4313 Nope, lenin did before stalin reversed his policies, he allowed for private ownership to return.

you make it out as if marx just invented socialism.
no, his ideas only received the most attention from socialists.
that means nothing as to whether or not he epitiomized the left.
HE DID NOT

Had stalin not reworked the USSR from it's core, then it is quite likely that it would have collapsed, similarly to how it did in the 90's, but with much more bloodshed.

Marx is the father of the collectivist ideology, also known as 70% of the left. If you do not consider marx to know anything then you are a useless anarchist in my eyes

also Stalin was good I agree on that

Lenin's ideas were better though

ideally

@Lucas 4313 They were complete and utter failures.

lenin said that ideally the state would eventually dissolve

They may have looked pretty on paper, but in the real world, they failed.

@alines And did it?

nope

Of course.

because they kept the state, instead of destroying it