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2018-03-09 23:28:51 UTC  

it does call their competence into question

2018-03-09 23:29:34 UTC  

Yep, the soviets were pretty damn incompitent, but somehow managed survive, the anarchists however......

2018-03-09 23:30:35 UTC  

how could stalin let those 30000000 ukrainians starve if it was unintentional?
any incompetent state could survive a small group of peasants desu

2018-03-09 23:31:12 UTC  

no matter how competent the peasants are

2018-03-09 23:31:33 UTC  

You've already got mass starvation in the soviet union, where food is scarce, and what do you do when you've got a famine in ukraine that is affecting millions?

2018-03-09 23:31:44 UTC  

You literally cannot do jackshit about it unless you want more to starve.

2018-03-09 23:33:05 UTC  

Hunger was all over SU majorly in Russia, Kazakhstan and Ukraine

2018-03-09 23:34:03 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 How the fuck did lenin and stalin manage to make starvation even worse than under the russian empire in the middle of WW1?

2018-03-09 23:34:23 UTC  

@Deleted User was it worse?

2018-03-09 23:34:45 UTC  

Yes.

2018-03-09 23:35:57 UTC  

There been hunger in Russian Empire before WW1 much worse

2018-03-09 23:36:19 UTC  

No there wasn't.

2018-03-09 23:36:45 UTC  

Wait, how far before WW1 are we talking?

2018-03-09 23:40:37 UTC  

The famine was noted, for example, in 1024, 1070, 1092, 1128, 1215, 1230-1231, 1279, 1309 and 1332. Further famine was noted in 1422, 1442, 1512, 1553, 1557 and 1570 years. The reasons were the same as in modern times: drought, excess rain, early frosts, "pruzi" ( locusts ), etc. The XVII century was opened by a terrible famine under Boris Godunov in 1601 and 1602.The famine broke out again in 1608, 1630 and 1636 During the famine in the Nizhny Novgorod province in 1734-1735 peasants fed on rotten oak corn, ate oak acorns, etc. In general, the number of crop failures and famines during the XVII, XVIII and XIX centuries is increasing. In the XVIII century there were 34 crop failures, and during the XIX century only until 1854 there were 35 of them. In 1842, the government stated that the crop failure is repeated every 6-7 years, lasting two years in a row. For the second half of the XIX century, hunger was especially violent, caused by crop failures of 1873, 1880 and 1883. In 1891-1892, 16 provinces of European Russia and Tobol'sk province in Siberia were famished) with a population of 35 million;

2018-03-09 23:40:54 UTC  

All of that until Stalin. After him no more famines

2018-03-09 23:41:08 UTC  

fuck niggers

2018-03-09 23:41:17 UTC  

@Deleted User I agree.

2018-03-09 23:42:40 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 Wait a minute, russia didn't exist in the 9th through 14th centuries, all that existed was the mongol empire, and mouscouvy later on, as well as that, russia didn't formally exist until around the 16th century.

2018-03-09 23:43:11 UTC  

Russia existed before Mongols

2018-03-09 23:43:25 UTC  

It fell apart

2018-03-09 23:43:34 UTC  

No it didn't, it was just a bunch of nomadic slav's.

2018-03-09 23:44:36 UTC  

Most populated agricultural tribe of Europe.

2018-03-09 23:45:22 UTC  

Yhea, a tribe that wasn't russian at all, fell apart, and then was conquered by the mongol's.

2018-03-09 23:45:55 UTC  

It consisted from the same very tribes after. It had same language and culture.

2018-03-09 23:46:34 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/421816095603818496/booty-had-me-like-more-budget-memes-1136347_2.png

2018-03-09 23:46:45 UTC  

But I agree Russians adopted too many Finns afterwards

2018-03-09 23:47:45 UTC  

@Firefly#9983 No, not the very same tribes, as the previous ones were wiped out by the mongols, infact mouscouvy would not come to power until after the mongolians torched moscow and killed nearly everyone in the surrounding area.

2018-03-09 23:49:28 UTC  

@Deleted User There been a slight 5% to 10% mix in the southern borders of Ukraine indeed. According to genetical studies.

2018-03-09 23:49:41 UTC  

But that not Mongols

2018-03-09 23:49:46 UTC  

That were Tatars

2018-03-09 23:52:28 UTC  

Okay?

2018-03-09 23:55:06 UTC  

All slavic tribes from old Russia are now part of Russia. Except north Ukrainians but that is a matter of time.

2018-03-09 23:55:36 UTC  

Okay?

2018-03-09 23:56:33 UTC  

Speak your autism out.

2018-03-09 23:56:47 UTC  

I don't understand this okay thing

2018-03-09 23:57:02 UTC  

I agreed.

2018-03-10 00:28:34 UTC  

Are Conservatives welcome?

2018-03-10 00:29:26 UTC  

@The Conservative Corner#7529 Fuck off cunt.

2018-03-10 02:16:29 UTC  

Catalonia actually killed many dissenter and was quite oppresive

2018-03-10 02:17:48 UTC  

Ofc the go-to argument is this case is "*that wasnt real anarchism*"