"trade and industry are controlled by private owners"

Wrong, it is used in democratic socialism, fedualism, tribalism, leninism, and chinese socialism.

>chinese socialism isn't capitalist
my sides

@DA GOMMIE JOO And there is the achilles heel to this.... "....for profit".

look at this unruhe fanboy

"industry is privately owned"

@DA GOMMIE JOO "for profit".

@Deleted User Again, for greatest possible profit....

yes and companies like krupp and messerschmidt made profits

Just because your markets are directed by the state and the profit is used by the state, doesn’t mean it’s not Capitalism

You know how profit works right?

@DA GOMMIE JOO Nope, under national socialism private businesses run not for profit but to benefit the state, profit comes second.

how do you “benefit” the state? With the profit your market creates, idiot

corporations didn't support NS because they loved the state
they did it because they made profit

@Deleted User Nope, but with the products and services that your business creates.

@DA GOMMIE JOO And? Their first priority was to benefit the state, they only made profit in the process of doing so.

they made profits though

As long as you have commodity production and markets, in which costumers pay money to buy things, it is capitalism. If products are sold on the market they can’t be simultaneously be free welfare.

@DA GOMMIE JOO And how does that matter?

companies will support anything if it nets them more profit

THINK for a second

@Deleted User Nope, you said yourself that it is when businesses are owned privately for profit.

Which they WERE

commodity production is by definition production for profit

@DA GOMMIE JOO And in the case of germany, they put the state first and profit second, which made them profit in the process.

@Deleted User Nope.

nice argument

"*complex theory*"
"nope"

@Deleted User Tell me how they were owned only for profit then.

Because they were sold on markets

guys

with wage labor

i am oficially

blue pilled

on the JQ

help me

but are you redpilled on the AQ?

@Deleted User What?

i dont like isreal

the two prerequisites for profit