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but jews dont control banks
or politics
anglos do though
You’re lucky this discussion has diverged
Do an economics course in the meantime
plenty of videos on Youtube
@Deleted User What? According to the webster dictionary.... profit comes when earnings are greater than that of expendenture....
How the hell did you relate that to wage labor?
when you talk about profit but don't understand how it's made
@DA GOMMIE JOO Just told you how profit is madw.
@Deleted User Earnings are made through selling things on markets.
If you are selling things on a market, you have to make profit, which is done by the extraction of surplus value from labor. (wage labor system)
@Deleted User Not inherently so, but I see your point....
Go on.....
If you don’t know what the basic economic analysis of value is and don’t know what the labor theory of value is, don’t be making judgements on what Marxism is BTW
Do not diverge from what we are talking about.
Bottom Line, the difference between Nazism and neoliberal Capitalism, is that Nazism promotes a form of markets that are directed by the state. Nonetheless, because the function of Capital remains largely the same, and that the mechanism of profit, the exploitative core of Capitalism, is not changed either, none of the contradictions within Capitalism, are resolved. Thus Nazism is not a Third Position, but a new Version (of Capitalist structure)
Capitalism very much isn't practiced in the national socialist worldview, because it's economic model diverges from the meaning of capitalism, that being that all the business strives for, is to earn profit, while not caring about how it affects the nation or the people of the nation in the process.
In Capitalism people can believe production to be good for the nation, their opinions and actions aren’t worth anything if they don’t make profit, but still there is no economic difference between the two fundamental cases.
Most petty bourgeois produce for the good of their family, a concept fascists are fond of.
It stands
@Deleted User They can believe it, but in actuality, it dosen't, and I have already told you how national socialist economics aren't capitalistic in any sense.
i’ve explained to you why they are
And I explained to you why they still aren't.
through privatization, which is the end goal of Capitalism and especially laissez fair Capitalism, the bad, dysfunctional kind of Capitalism
Privatization isn't inherently capitalist, how many times do we have to go over this.
It is though
How is it?
Prove to me how it is without just saying "ET EZ THO!:
wow buddy I’m the one who argued for something, you’re the one going “privatization, the inherent function of Capitalism, is not Capitalist because I say so”
@Deleted User I showed you no longer than 10 minutes ago evidence from the merriam webster dictionary, that shows that because national socialist economics are not for profit only, they by definition are not capitalist.
Privatization carries with it the inherent need to make profit for yourself. If you privatize an industry, how do you expect that industry to perform production and sustain itself?
You can make the “it’s all for the state” argument in nationalized industries, but not in private ones. Because private ownership produces to sell, not to give away, like state owned production does
Oh what so now Capitalist nations that have a public sector are no longer Capitalist
Were you dropped?
@Deleted User Again, state comes first profit comes second, just because they have the state come first does not mean they cannot earn profit in the process.
Ahahahaha
Like I said before, we have no issue if people make profit off of privatization.
which is what we are talking about, Nazism is not anti capitalist
thanks for proving my point
Wrong, we hate capitalists.
What is a capitalist? Someone who owns privately. ahahaha how stupid are you
Nope, already showed you how that isn't the case.