violence cannot solve a civil dispute

and my other point was for critical industries. lets say every single subway worker in the world went on strike today. and lets say you and your friends intended to go to subway what would you do?

Go on foot

Like dude

If all of them strike at once

subway is in the fast food place

Oh

go somewhere else..

If all of them strike

thats obviously not going to happen any time soon and if it did then they must have a really good reason

Its because they probably are being exploited and are tired

And something really fucked up is happening and they have the right to strike

exactly because there are economic substitutes. and im just talking in the hypothetical so it doesn't need to be realistic its just principle

Ok

So whats the problem if they strike

but now lets say that every single fireman went on strike on the same day and your house was on fire. no if subway goes on strike I have no relation to subway so no skin off my nose but for cases where there are no substitutes what can you as a consumer what would you do. because what I just said literally happened in great Britain in the seventies. the army had reserve fire engines called green goddesses so people houses would not burn to the ground

so the problem was resolved with the army

Even in a case that extreme

or the sewage plant. so you cant flush your toilet. what substitute is their for that. unions and companies are not inherently evil but a balance must be struck

The army solved it

but a line must be drawn. or in the case of power. for days sometimes the power plant workers would go on strike and the whole country would literally grind to a halt. and because it is such a specialized job the army could not do it. so I am against exploitation but it is wrong for a union of lets say ten thousand people to hold a country of sixty million to ransom for some pay

maybe the company should give the union what they want

UK labours own motto is " For the many not the few "

@T. Raven ill respond to that in a minute

lets say that when you were a child your parents gave you ten dollars every day

then one day they lowered it to five what would you do?

lets say you were 8 at the time just for the sake of debate

why am i getting money for doing nothing

im not a capitalist

just abstract just pretend

you're 8 remember so pretend

im getting money for doing nothing

i would assume that 8 year old raven wouldn't like having five dollars less because why not. my point was that you would resent any times when your demands were not met. not seeing it from your parents perspective. perhaps they are recently having financial troubles so they lower it. we forget how hard it is to really look at it from another persons shoes

now if you work at the imaginary power plant and every worker just got a five percent pay cut you might organise a strike because you would be angry at the pay cut

the workers are the ones maintaining the power plant, ergo making the money

they are entitled to every last penny

Nail you being a faggot in here too?

Don't you have some Pakistani rape gangs to feed your young ones too or something anglo?

now imagine you are the CEO. if they company is in debt should everyone take a five percent pay cut or should you lay off five percent of the workforce. lets say if the company is 10,000 people. 500 people would be on the dole. but those 500 people never knew that was on the table. they automatically assume the company is being greedy which sometimes they are but not every time. there is always a balance. so my question to you is would you lay off 500 or cut the pay by 5 percent. also @(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ doom clit ♥ today im making an effort to be rational. i want to hear a debate not a list of soundbites. I welcome your side of the story

> today im making an effort to be rational.

Not a very good one, we're still feeding you @Monolith 's girl dick

now start sucking