Message from @Constantin Cucknenko
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And if the state own's everything why innovate. there is only one TV company so why innovate to make a better tv. there is only on pharmaceutical company so why innovate when what we have suffices. Capitalism is not perfect. Persian rugs deliberately have one flaw because perfect is only for Allah. but with the tools we have and the historical evidence capitalism ( not corporatism ) seems the least worst
feel free to correct me with your opinion
Well first of all
The thing you said about comissions
Thats what Worker Union's are for
And also
Even small businesses can steal labour from other people
Not saying all of them do
just while we are on the topic of unions. I have some things to say
Ok
first the core principal I totally support
once you start to differentiate capitalism as being "corporatism" the argument gets really nonsensical
capital will always accumulate towards the top and will always consolidate into a few groups or individuals, so corporatism, if it even exists as a separate thing, is just the end result of capitalism
Yes
to work in a dangerous working environment is wrong. there are stories of workers in third world sulfur mines without gas masks. that is wrong plain and simple and unions for them I am 100 percent in favour of
ill come to capitalism in a minute
Worker unions arent only for dangerous working conditions tho
but my gripe with unions is when they get too powerful. some picket lines use intimidation to other workers and sometimes even violence that is also wrong
violence cannot solve a civil dispute
and my other point was for critical industries. lets say every single subway worker in the world went on strike today. and lets say you and your friends intended to go to subway what would you do?
Like dude
If all of them strike at once
subway is in the fast food place
Oh
go somewhere else..
If all of them strike
thats obviously not going to happen any time soon and if it did then they must have a really good reason
Its because they probably are being exploited and are tired
And something really fucked up is happening and they have the right to strike
exactly because there are economic substitutes. and im just talking in the hypothetical so it doesn't need to be realistic its just principle
Ok
So whats the problem if they strike
but now lets say that every single fireman went on strike on the same day and your house was on fire. no if subway goes on strike I have no relation to subway so no skin off my nose but for cases where there are no substitutes what can you as a consumer what would you do. because what I just said literally happened in great Britain in the seventies. the army had reserve fire engines called green goddesses so people houses would not burn to the ground
so the problem was resolved with the army
Even in a case that extreme
or the sewage plant. so you cant flush your toilet. what substitute is their for that. unions and companies are not inherently evil but a balance must be struck
The army solved it
but a line must be drawn. or in the case of power. for days sometimes the power plant workers would go on strike and the whole country would literally grind to a halt. and because it is such a specialized job the army could not do it. so I am against exploitation but it is wrong for a union of lets say ten thousand people to hold a country of sixty million to ransom for some pay
maybe the company should give the union what they want
UK labours own motto is " For the many not the few "