Message from @One Fire One Nail

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2019-08-04 19:09:03 UTC  

or the sewage plant. so you cant flush your toilet. what substitute is their for that. unions and companies are not inherently evil but a balance must be struck

2019-08-04 19:09:19 UTC  

The army solved it

2019-08-04 19:11:12 UTC  

but a line must be drawn. or in the case of power. for days sometimes the power plant workers would go on strike and the whole country would literally grind to a halt. and because it is such a specialized job the army could not do it. so I am against exploitation but it is wrong for a union of lets say ten thousand people to hold a country of sixty million to ransom for some pay

2019-08-04 19:11:57 UTC  

maybe the company should give the union what they want

2019-08-04 19:12:08 UTC  

UK labours own motto is " For the many not the few "

2019-08-04 19:12:32 UTC  

@T. Raven ill respond to that in a minute

2019-08-04 19:13:11 UTC  

lets say that when you were a child your parents gave you ten dollars every day

2019-08-04 19:13:28 UTC  

then one day they lowered it to five what would you do?

2019-08-04 19:13:52 UTC  

lets say you were 8 at the time just for the sake of debate

2019-08-04 19:14:50 UTC  

why am i getting money for doing nothing

2019-08-04 19:14:58 UTC  

im not a capitalist

2019-08-04 19:15:01 UTC  

just abstract just pretend

2019-08-04 19:15:15 UTC  

you're 8 remember so pretend

2019-08-04 19:15:15 UTC  

im getting money for doing nothing

2019-08-04 19:17:34 UTC  

i would assume that 8 year old raven wouldn't like having five dollars less because why not. my point was that you would resent any times when your demands were not met. not seeing it from your parents perspective. perhaps they are recently having financial troubles so they lower it. we forget how hard it is to really look at it from another persons shoes

2019-08-04 19:18:31 UTC  

now if you work at the imaginary power plant and every worker just got a five percent pay cut you might organise a strike because you would be angry at the pay cut

2019-08-04 19:20:19 UTC  

the workers are the ones maintaining the power plant, ergo making the money

2019-08-04 19:20:25 UTC  

they are entitled to every last penny

2019-08-04 19:21:13 UTC  

Nail you being a faggot in here too?

2019-08-04 19:21:37 UTC  

Don't you have some Pakistani rape gangs to feed your young ones too or something anglo?

2019-08-04 19:22:12 UTC  

now imagine you are the CEO. if they company is in debt should everyone take a five percent pay cut or should you lay off five percent of the workforce. lets say if the company is 10,000 people. 500 people would be on the dole. but those 500 people never knew that was on the table. they automatically assume the company is being greedy which sometimes they are but not every time. there is always a balance. so my question to you is would you lay off 500 or cut the pay by 5 percent. also @(っ◔◡◔)っ ♥ doom clit ♥ today im making an effort to be rational. i want to hear a debate not a list of soundbites. I welcome your side of the story

2019-08-04 19:22:40 UTC  

> today im making an effort to be rational.

Not a very good one, we're still feeding you @Monolith 's girl dick

2019-08-04 19:22:45 UTC  

now start sucking

2019-08-04 19:22:50 UTC  

The thing is

2019-08-04 19:22:58 UTC  

Companies like that dont exist in Socialism

2019-08-04 19:23:02 UTC  

>now imagine you are the CEO

I kill myself for being porky

2019-08-04 19:23:12 UTC  

it doesnt matter if the company is in debt

2019-08-04 19:23:16 UTC  

not the employee's fault

2019-08-04 19:23:16 UTC  

Thats a capitalist only problem

2019-08-04 19:23:50 UTC  

the common man shouldn't have to suffer for the mishaps done by someone who steals from them

2019-08-04 19:24:00 UTC  

right here in todays world. not tomorrow gun to your head what would you do. lay off 500 or cut the pay by 5 percent

2019-08-04 19:24:19 UTC  

it's like having your house burglarized and then the state told you to pay for the robber's lawyer

2019-08-04 19:24:25 UTC  

Let the dude shoot me cuz im porky

2019-08-04 19:25:10 UTC  

Im not gonna cut the pay of someone who hasnt done anything wrong or lay off someone for that matter

2019-08-04 19:25:15 UTC  

Let the company sink

2019-08-04 19:25:32 UTC  

Its the CEO's fault, not the workers

2019-08-04 19:25:37 UTC  

most of these lay offs and pay cuts are only done to secure the position of the CEO

2019-08-04 19:25:41 UTC  

at the expense of the workforce

2019-08-04 19:25:42 UTC  

see its a difficult question. but lets assume he cuts they pay. if they go on strike 1,000,000 people lose power. should the needs of 10,000 outweigh 1,000,000?

2019-08-04 19:25:58 UTC  

should the need of 1 outweigh the needs of 10,000?

2019-08-04 19:27:00 UTC  

but here is the thing. lets use swimming as an example I go swimming three times a week as a hoby. so it is at my own expense