Ok back to the discussion at hand, the problem with collectivization is that it implies that the workers themselves must be united in a cause to fight against their oppressors, being bourgeoise, but considering the sheer amount of propaganda and sentiment these days there aren't many anarcho-communes in the Western World
People have relied on their state so long that if it ever collapsed or went into turmoil, they would lose themselves and go to who ever the closest "person of power" is. For example, Somalia there were several movements of non western funded organizations that are "liberal" by nature who wish to restore the Somalian Republic before the invasions and massive conflicts started in the region by the Warlords and Ethiopians. Some of these movements managed to work together to stop illegal fishing off the shores of Somalia. Other movements in the former nation forced themselves in Somaliland to get away from the brutal political and hellish warfare from the rest of the country....
People will fight and die for causes they don't understand and hopefully will gain independence soon enough from their oppressors. The forever changing chain of Thesis V Anti-Thesis must end soon before it quite literally destroys the world entirely. The only way to accomplish such, is to destroy all hieratical systems, all forms of government, the abolishment of the self serving capitalist system, and the dismantling of leaders as we know it...
