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The state @NSG1488 ?
@Blueroad so we’ve established equality is something that exists independent of humans. So then how about goodness or evil. Are those concepts that exist independent of humanity?
@Deleted User The state that is compromised from Proletarians, not from Bourgeoisie, since Marx made a mistake in some of his reasonings that allowed Bourgeoisie to take over.
im not sure, i certainly cant see any reason to be obliged to believe that they are existent independently ofnus
These are ethical concepts
@ACentralScrutinizer could we go to another text channel please
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@NSG1488 honestly that just sounds like Corporation 2.0- mainly thinking of the mass production/trash quality
Not really, since mass production can only be created by machines when talking about production of food, metal and other goods.
The point I am trying to say here is that if we want people to advance, we will need to get rid of automation since it is creating what many people call "bullshit jobs"
Those jobs include "Jewtuber" if you know what I mean.
but automation seems to be natural
we should try and work around that
But people get weaker and weaker by allowing machines to take over the jobs that humans are supposed to do
We do not want society to collapse back into the stone age, you know.
i get your point but why can't private venture do the same thing that the state, in your view, should? Both hold the means to abuse the proletariat so to say
i guess
although to certain extent it becomes unfeasable
Well, the thing is that Capitalism is adaptable
It allowed itself to corrupt the state.
You cannot have a free market capitalism when the state is a thing.
We must become machines
All we need is some kind of mind-to-cloud transfer
Marx said that Capitalism is inherently exploitative, and will even destroy nature for profit.
Of course, but it is humanity that is doing such and so what stops the state from doing it? The masses won't give a shit, so why not use capitalism [to a extent- above a certain point industries could, i guess be nationalized or something] to allow people to create something to live for
Honestly at this point i'm just providing obsolete arguments
i get your point
Well one thing is for sure:
We all know that Lolocaust never happened ahahaha xdddd
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But isn't that right comrade?
Of course it is
Imagine unironically believing that wooden door can hold gas.
Now that's beyond retarded.
a lot of people are retarded [more]
partially due to the chemicals we induce in ourselves every day tbh