oh no its shuka

Capitalism may be trash

but can y'all give some alternatives then

Central planning isn’t needed to get food to people

Socialism @.suki

There wasn’t central planning before and yet famines are still rare

@☭ Anon ☭ because histroically that's worked well, yeah?

basically everybody here believes in some kind of alternative be it fascism communism anarchism or national socialism

If anything central planning might make distribution worse because you can’t predict consumption patterns like that

so basically ask anybody

Also we’re slowly getting better

Millions of people are lifted from poverty every year and over time the standard for poverty gets higjer

Yes it has actually. Soviet caloric consumption was higher than that of the united states and they had much less to work with from the start @.suki

We live like royalty from a thousand years ago

I'm certainly critical of capitalism for sure, but from what I've seen communism and the like eventually devolve into capitalism + authoritarianism

@☭ Anon ☭ interesting

oh i forgot to mention anon is a tankie

What’s a tankie?

oh shuka

tankies are soviet union lovers

Ye whats a tankie

ohhh

a special kind of communist

kek

pretty rare

Why would you like the Soviet Union

It was terrible

I wasnt around personally, so ive only heard the stories

you've done it now

anon gonna rant now

o god o fuck

Under Marxism millions of people died and there was literally no freedom at all

No free speech no protests or anything

wow shuka you said something somewhat smart

He killed millions of his own people in Ukraine because they wanted democratic reforms

How is any of that good

you've really triggered anon

@Yō Watanabe 1) capitalism hasn’t taken anyone out of poverty, the idea that it has is primarily the result of interference with the IPL which showed decreases in poverty. 2) in the context of the distribution of food, water, etc, we have a well defined idea of how much a human being needs to survive. The information problem doesn’t work

Triggered = typing long response

Gotcha big brain laurentia

I think socialism is enough