You can say that you are going to gather evidence

and come to a conclusion based on said evidence

Well God's entire purpose for creation was for you to be lead not by material or sight but by faith. Do you want your future spouse to come to you by your sexual attractiveness, or your spirit and grace?

whcih is what we are doing with the origin of the universe

If God showed himself everyone with a brain would fall to their knees for him

thats not relevant

It is

you still have yet to demonstrate God

God is personal, he has emotions and feelings

and he Loves you just how you will love your spouse

...

james 4:8

**James 4:8 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<8> Draw near to God, and he will draw near to you. Cleanse your hands, you sinners, and purify your hearts, you double-minded. ```

I don't get the amount of brainwashing you must feel inorder to not atleast hope for a god that truly loves and cares for you

you wont find any atheists on a boat sinking

revelation 22:17

**Revelation 22:17 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

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<17> The Spirit and the Bride say, "Come." And let the one who hears say, "Come." And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires take the water of life without price. ```

You, @Riley Are being offered something free of cost, and yet you still refuse it.

no, what you are doing is regarding a hypothesis about the origin of the universe

and I do not accept it

as you have not met your burden of proof

I bring no proof, if i had proof it would defeat the purpose of tribulation. For you to seek god out of faith, not by sight

faith is not a means of rational justification

faith is irrational

so is opinion

using that logic, one could justify the existence of anything by appealing to faith

we're talking in circles.

there is nothing more loving than faith in something that you cannot see. Give and you will be given to

i don't think you understand

Faith could be used

to justify the existance of anything

faith is not a reliable path to truth

so can someones opinion

i know

and thats why we call them *opinions*

not facts

I've held faiths in many things, addie. Never from another place of spirituality have i recieved the grace that i have through God

ok demonstrate that there is a God to give grace

especially considering the errors of the bible

there was no flood

there was no creatoin